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Admiral
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3 identische Threads - aber sonst fühlen wir uns noch gut, ja?
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das waren 3 einzelne Threads - ich hab die nur zusammen gefügt, leugnen hilft jetzt auch nicht mehr
das waren 3 einzelne Threads - ich hab die nur zusammen gefügt, leugnen hilft jetzt auch nicht mehr
Der Unterschied ist ...
dass das SD-M1712 einen 192 KB Datenpuffer hat und das SD-M1612 einen 512 KB Datenpuffer hat. Andere Unterschiede sind mir nicht bekannt. Ich hab das SD-M1712 und kann sagen das es soweit ganz gut läuft, habe nämlich noch keine Fehler entdeckt.
Bye Nico
dass das SD-M1712 einen 192 KB Datenpuffer hat und das SD-M1612 einen 512 KB Datenpuffer hat. Andere Unterschiede sind mir nicht bekannt. Ich hab das SD-M1712 und kann sagen das es soweit ganz gut läuft, habe nämlich noch keine Fehler entdeckt.
Bye Nico
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also dass das 1702 nur 196 kb puffer hat, ist dann wohl den computerläden nicht bekannt, weil die schreiben, dass das 1702 auch 512 kb hat.
Demnach was du sagst, ist das 1602 wohl besser?? Oder welche Veränderungen gibt es denn sonst noch??
Demnach was du sagst, ist das 1602 wohl besser?? Oder welche Veränderungen gibt es denn sonst noch??
Blutschlumpf
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Da wird wohl kaum ein ernsthafter Unterschied sein.
Beim 1712 haste weniger Cache, dafür aber bestimt auch einge Dinge, die Toshiba verbessert hat.
Mittlerweile würd ich aber vom 1612 abraten, da es beim Rippen lahm ist und mit Audio-KS nicht umgehen kann
Beim 1712 haste weniger Cache, dafür aber bestimt auch einge Dinge, die Toshiba verbessert hat.
Mittlerweile würd ich aber vom 1612 abraten, da es beim Rippen lahm ist und mit Audio-KS nicht umgehen kann
Spekulatius
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Wie siehts denn mit Lärmentwicklung aus beim 1712?
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Naja
Hier mal alle Modelle
Drive Features SD-M 1702
Internal/External
Internal Drive
Disk Loading Mechanism
Tray-Load (Bare Disk)
Data Buffer Capacity
192 Kbyte
ROM Type
Flash-ROM
Emergency Eject
Please refer to chapter "Emergency Eject" in the manual.
Region Protection Code Level (RPC)
RPC-2
Microsoft Multimedia-PC Level
Microsoft Multimedia PC-3 compliant
Windows PC-Specifications Compliance (WHQL)
PC-2001
Drive Performance
Speed Factors
Maximum Speed Factor CD Read (CAV)
From 20.7 to 48 x
Maximum Speed Factor Audio-CD Play (PCAV)
From 4 to 5.7 x
Maximum Speed Factor CDDA Transfer
From 14 to 32 x
Maximum Speed Factor CD-RW Read (CAV)
From 20.7 to 48 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD Read (Single Layer; CAV)
From 6 to 16 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD Read (Dual Layer; CAV)
From 4.1 to 10 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD-Video Read (CSS Disk; CAV)
From 2 to 4.8 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD-RAM Read (2.6 GB/Side)
2 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD-RAM Read (4.7 GB/Side)
1 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD-R Read (CAV)
From 2 to 4.8 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD-RW Read (CAV)
From 2 to 4.8 x
Transfer Rate
Sustained Block Transfer Rate
CD (CAV)
From 1,153 to 3,600 Blocks/s
CD (PCAV)
From 300 to 450 Blocks/s
DVD (Single Layer; CAV)
From 4,455 to 10,800 Blocks/s
DVD (Dual Layer; CAV)
From 2,770 to 6,750 Blocks/s
DVD-Video (CSS Disk; CAV)
From 1,352 to 3,268 Blocks/s
DVD-RAM Ver. 1.0 (CLV)
1,352 Blocks/s
DVD-RAM Ver. 2.1 (CLV)
1,352 Blocks/s
DVD-R Ver. 1 (CAV)
From 1,352 to 3,268 Blocks/s
DVD-R Ver. 2 (CAV)
From 1,352 to 3,268 Blocks/s
DVD-RW (CAV)
From 1,352 to 3,268 Blocks/s
Sustained Data Transfer Rate
CD (Mode 1; CAV)
From 3,105 to 7,200 Kbyte/s
CD (Mode 2; CAV)
From 3,541 to 8,212 Kbyte/s
DVD (Single Layer; CAV)
From 8,910 to 21,600 Kbyte/s
DVD (Dual Layer; CAV)
From 5,540 to 13,500 Kbyte/s
DVD-Video (CSS Disk; CAV)
From 2,704 to 6,536 Kbyte/s
DVD-RAM Ver. 1.0 (CLV)
2,704 Kbyte/s
DVD-RAM Ver. 2.1 (CLV)
2,704 Kbyte/s
DVD-R Ver. 1 (CAV)
From 2,704 to 6,536 Kbyte/s
DVD-R Ver. 2 (CAV)
From 2,704 to 6,536 Kbyte/s
DVD-RW (CAV)
From 2,704 to 6,536 Kbyte/s
Burst Data Transfer Rate
PIO Mode 4
16.7 Mbyte/s
Multiple Word DMA Transfer (Mode 2)
16.7 Mbyte/s
Ultra DMA
33.3 Mbyte/s
Access Time
Average Random Access Time
CD
85 ms
DVD
95 ms
DVD-RAM
180 ms
Average Random Seek Time
CD
80 ms
DVD
85 ms
DVD-RAM
130 ms
Average Full Stroke Access Time
CD
180 ms
DVD
200 ms
Rotational Speed
CD-ROM (CAV)
9,500 rpm
CD-DA Transfer (CAV)
6,400 rpm
Audio-CD (PCAV)
From 1,200 to 2,000 rpm
Video-CD (PCAV)
From 1,200 to 2,000 rpm
CD-R (CAV)
9,500 rpm
CD-RW (CAV)
9,500 rpm
DVD (Single Layer; CAV)
9,200 rpm
DVD (Dual Layer; CAV)
6,300 rpm
DVD-Video (CSS Disk; CAV)
2,780 rpm
DVD-RAM Ver. 1.0 (CLV)
From 2,160 to 4,800 rpm
DVD-RAM Ver. 2.1 (CLV)
From 1,380 to 3,300 rpm
DVD-R (CAV)
2,780 rpm
DVD-RW (CAV)
2,780 rpm
Applicable Read Disk
CD+(E)G
CD-DA
CD-I
CD-I Bridge (Photo-CD)
CD-I Bridge (Video-CD)
CD-MIDI
CD-R
CD-ROM
CD-ROM XA
CD-RW
CD-TEXT
DVD-R
DVD-RAM 1.46 GB, 80 mm, Double Sided
DVD-RAM 1.46 GB, 80 mm, Single Sided
DVD-RAM 2.6 GB, 120 mm, Double Sided
DVD-RAM 2.6 GB, 120 mm, Single Sided
DVD-RAM 4.7 GB, 120 mm, Double Sided
DVD-RAM 4.7 GB, 120 mm, Single Sided
DVD-ROM (DVD-10)
DVD-ROM (DVD-18)
DVD-ROM (DVD-5)
DVD-ROM (DVD-9)
DVD-RW
Multisession CD-Extra
Multisession CD-R
Multisession CD-RW
Multisession Photo-CD
Load/Eject Methods
Electrical Load/Eject (Eject Button)
Emergency Eject
Load by pressing the tray
Load/Eject by ATAPI Command
Acoustic Noise
42 dB
Air Flow
Not required
Media Information
Optical Disk Diameter
120 mm
80 mm (usable only in horizontal position of the drive)
Data Block Capacity
CD (Mode 1)
2048 Byte/Block
CD (Mode 2)
2336 Byte/Block
DVD-ROM
2048 Byte/Block
DVD-RAM
2048 Byte/Block
Disk Capacity
CD (Mode 1)
656.5 Mbyte
CD (Mode 2)
748.8 Mbyte
DVD-5
4377 Mbyte
DVD-9
7959 Mbyte
DVD-10
8754 Mbyte
DVD-18
15917 Mbyte
DVD-RAM Ver. 1.0
2324 Mbyte
DVD-RAM Ver. 2.1
4377 Mbyte
DVD-R Ver. 1 (3.9 GB)
3679 Mbyte
DVD-R Ver. 2 (4.7 GB)
4377 Mbyte
DVD-RW
4377 Mbyte
Installation Conditions
Mount the drive within 20° of the horizontal positions and within 10° of the vertical positions.
Jumper Settings
Please refer to chapter "Jumper Settings" in the manual.
Drive Reliabilities
MTBF
100,000 Hours
MTBF Assumptions
Power On Hours
5,436 Hours/Year
On/Off Cycles
313 Cycles/Year
Number Of Accesses
600,000 Accesses/Year
MTTR
0.5 Hours
Drive Life
15,000 Hours
Load/Eject
>= 10,000 Times
Interface Connector Attach/Detach
>= 20 Times
Power Connector Attach/Detach
>= 20 Times
Environmental Conditions
Temperature and Humidity
Operating Temperature
From 5 to 50 °C
Storage Temperature
From -10 to 60 °C
Operating Temperature Gradient
11 °C/Hour
Storage Temperature Gradient
20 °C/Hour
Shipping Temperature Gradient
20 °C/Hour
Operating Humidity
From 8 to 80 %
Storage Humidity
From 5 to 95 %
Shipping Humidity
From 5 to 95 %
Condensation
In all the above conditions there must be no condensation.
Dust and Dirt
Unspecified
Vibration
Operating (Read, No Hard Error)
0.25 G
Non-Operating (No damage)
1 G
Shipping (No damage)
1 G
Shock
Operating (Read, No Retry)
Horizontal
1.5 G
Vertical
0.8 G
Operating (Read, No Data Loss)
10 G
Non-Operating
No Disk Mounted (No Damage)
50 G
Drop
Individual Package
0.9 m drop once for each 6 surfaces, 1 edge and 1 corner.
Operating Pressure and Altitude
Operating
From 0 to 3,000 m
Shipping
From 0 to 12,000 m
Dimensions and Mass
External Dimensions (WxHxD)
146 x 41.5 x 193 mm
Mass (Weight)
Net.
0.99 kg
Individual Package
1.3 kg
Configuration
Optical Pick-Up
1-Lens/2-Laser System
Laser Technology
Semiconductor Laser and 1-Beam-System (DVD)
Semiconductor Laser and 3-Beam-System (CD)
Laser Wave Lengths
650 nm (DVD)
780 nm (CD)
Spindle Motor
Brushless DC-Motor
Feed Motor
DC-Motor
Load/Eject Motor
DC-Motor
Power Requirements
Source Voltage
Operating
+ 12V (+/- 5%)
+ 5V (+/- 5%)
Start-Up
+ 12V (+/- 8%)
+ 5V (+/- 8%)
Current Drain
Continuous Data Read CD (+ 5V)
880 mA
Continuous Data Read CD (+ 12V)
880 mA
Continuous Data Read DVD (+ 5V)
970 mA
Continuous Data Read DVD (+ 12V)
690 mA
Average CD (20% Random Access, + 5V)
850 mA
Average CD (20% Random Access, + 12V)
870 mA
Average DVD (20% Random Access, + 5V)
930 mA
Average DVD (20% Random Access, + 12V)
710 mA
Maximum CD (100% Random Access, + 5V)
880 mA
Maximum CD (100% Random Access, + 12V)
1,000 mA
Maximum DVD (100% Random Access, + 5V)
940 mA
Maximum DVD (100% Random Access, + 12V)
800 mA
Power Consumption
Average CD
14.7 W
Average DVD
13.2 W
Stand-By Period
1.5 W
Audio
Analog Out
Output Level
0.86 V
Type
Unbalanced
Load Impedance
47 kOhm
Frequency Response
20 to 20,000 Hz
Distortion (Attenuation)
-80 dB
Signal-To-Noise Ratio
84 dB
Digital Out
Output Level
0.65 V
Type
Unbalanced
Load Impedance
75 Ohm
Headphones Output (optional)
Output Level
0.97 V
Level Adjust Controller
Continuous Type (Thumb Wheel Knob)
Load Impedance
100 Ohm
Connector
3.5mm diameter Stereo Headphone Jack
Audio Modes
16 Modes including "Stereo", "LCh Mono", "RCh Mono" and "Mute" are selectable by command. Default mode is "Stereo". "Audio Out" is automatically muted in the digital data area and seek state.
16 Steps of attenuation level for the "Audio Out" (both "Line Out" and "Headphones Out" together) are selectable by command. Default level is 0 dB.
Interface
Applicable to
ANSI X3T10/2008D Rev. 6
ANSI X3T13/1321D Rev. 3
ATAPI SFF8020i Rev. 2.6
ATAPI SFF8090 Ver. 3
Connections and Cables
Power Supply Cable Length
<= 2 m
ATAPI Cable Length
<= 0.46 m
Audio Cable Length
<= 3 m
Electrostatic Discharge
Conforms To Standard
IEC801-2
Maintenance and Handling
Optical Pick-Up Head
Optical Pick-Up: A dirty Optical Pick-Up will degrade the access time. Please do not try to clean it yourself!
Optical Media
Optical Disk: Try to avoid touching the data area of the disk as dirt and smears will degrade the disk accessing speed. If the disk is dirty, wipe with a soft cloth from the center of the media straight to the outside.
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Drive Features SD-M 1702
Internal/External
Internal Drive
Disk Loading Mechanism
Tray-Load (Bare Disk)
Data Buffer Capacity
192 Kbyte
ROM Type
Flash-ROM
Emergency Eject
Please refer to chapter "Emergency Eject" in the manual.
Region Protection Code Level (RPC)
RPC-2
Microsoft Multimedia-PC Level
Microsoft Multimedia PC-3 compliant
Windows PC-Specifications Compliance (WHQL)
PC-2001
Drive Performance
Speed Factors
Maximum Speed Factor CD Read (CAV)
From 20.7 to 48 x
Maximum Speed Factor Audio-CD Play (PCAV)
From 4 to 5.7 x
Maximum Speed Factor CDDA Transfer
From 14 to 32 x
Maximum Speed Factor CD-RW Read (CAV)
From 20.7 to 48 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD Read (Single Layer; CAV)
From 6 to 16 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD Read (Dual Layer; CAV)
From 4.1 to 10 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD-Video Read (CSS Disk; CAV)
From 2 to 4.8 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD-RAM Read (2.6 GB/Side)
2 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD-RAM Read (4.7 GB/Side)
1 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD-R Read (CAV)
From 2 to 4.8 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD-RW Read (CAV)
From 2 to 4.8 x
Transfer Rate
Sustained Block Transfer Rate
CD (CAV)
From 1,153 to 3,600 Blocks/s
CD (PCAV)
From 300 to 450 Blocks/s
DVD (Single Layer; CAV)
From 4,455 to 10,800 Blocks/s
DVD (Dual Layer; CAV)
From 2,770 to 6,750 Blocks/s
DVD-Video (CSS Disk; CAV)
From 1,352 to 3,268 Blocks/s
DVD-RAM Ver. 1.0 (CLV)
1,352 Blocks/s
DVD-RAM Ver. 2.1 (CLV)
1,352 Blocks/s
DVD-R Ver. 1 (CAV)
From 1,352 to 3,268 Blocks/s
DVD-R Ver. 2 (CAV)
From 1,352 to 3,268 Blocks/s
DVD-RW (CAV)
From 1,352 to 3,268 Blocks/s
Sustained Data Transfer Rate
CD (Mode 1; CAV)
From 3,105 to 7,200 Kbyte/s
CD (Mode 2; CAV)
From 3,541 to 8,212 Kbyte/s
DVD (Single Layer; CAV)
From 8,910 to 21,600 Kbyte/s
DVD (Dual Layer; CAV)
From 5,540 to 13,500 Kbyte/s
DVD-Video (CSS Disk; CAV)
From 2,704 to 6,536 Kbyte/s
DVD-RAM Ver. 1.0 (CLV)
2,704 Kbyte/s
DVD-RAM Ver. 2.1 (CLV)
2,704 Kbyte/s
DVD-R Ver. 1 (CAV)
From 2,704 to 6,536 Kbyte/s
DVD-R Ver. 2 (CAV)
From 2,704 to 6,536 Kbyte/s
DVD-RW (CAV)
From 2,704 to 6,536 Kbyte/s
Burst Data Transfer Rate
PIO Mode 4
16.7 Mbyte/s
Multiple Word DMA Transfer (Mode 2)
16.7 Mbyte/s
Ultra DMA
33.3 Mbyte/s
Access Time
Average Random Access Time
CD
85 ms
DVD
95 ms
DVD-RAM
180 ms
Average Random Seek Time
CD
80 ms
DVD
85 ms
DVD-RAM
130 ms
Average Full Stroke Access Time
CD
180 ms
DVD
200 ms
Rotational Speed
CD-ROM (CAV)
9,500 rpm
CD-DA Transfer (CAV)
6,400 rpm
Audio-CD (PCAV)
From 1,200 to 2,000 rpm
Video-CD (PCAV)
From 1,200 to 2,000 rpm
CD-R (CAV)
9,500 rpm
CD-RW (CAV)
9,500 rpm
DVD (Single Layer; CAV)
9,200 rpm
DVD (Dual Layer; CAV)
6,300 rpm
DVD-Video (CSS Disk; CAV)
2,780 rpm
DVD-RAM Ver. 1.0 (CLV)
From 2,160 to 4,800 rpm
DVD-RAM Ver. 2.1 (CLV)
From 1,380 to 3,300 rpm
DVD-R (CAV)
2,780 rpm
DVD-RW (CAV)
2,780 rpm
Applicable Read Disk
CD+(E)G
CD-DA
CD-I
CD-I Bridge (Photo-CD)
CD-I Bridge (Video-CD)
CD-MIDI
CD-R
CD-ROM
CD-ROM XA
CD-RW
CD-TEXT
DVD-R
DVD-RAM 1.46 GB, 80 mm, Double Sided
DVD-RAM 1.46 GB, 80 mm, Single Sided
DVD-RAM 2.6 GB, 120 mm, Double Sided
DVD-RAM 2.6 GB, 120 mm, Single Sided
DVD-RAM 4.7 GB, 120 mm, Double Sided
DVD-RAM 4.7 GB, 120 mm, Single Sided
DVD-ROM (DVD-10)
DVD-ROM (DVD-18)
DVD-ROM (DVD-5)
DVD-ROM (DVD-9)
DVD-RW
Multisession CD-Extra
Multisession CD-R
Multisession CD-RW
Multisession Photo-CD
Load/Eject Methods
Electrical Load/Eject (Eject Button)
Emergency Eject
Load by pressing the tray
Load/Eject by ATAPI Command
Acoustic Noise
42 dB
Air Flow
Not required
Media Information
Optical Disk Diameter
120 mm
80 mm (usable only in horizontal position of the drive)
Data Block Capacity
CD (Mode 1)
2048 Byte/Block
CD (Mode 2)
2336 Byte/Block
DVD-ROM
2048 Byte/Block
DVD-RAM
2048 Byte/Block
Disk Capacity
CD (Mode 1)
656.5 Mbyte
CD (Mode 2)
748.8 Mbyte
DVD-5
4377 Mbyte
DVD-9
7959 Mbyte
DVD-10
8754 Mbyte
DVD-18
15917 Mbyte
DVD-RAM Ver. 1.0
2324 Mbyte
DVD-RAM Ver. 2.1
4377 Mbyte
DVD-R Ver. 1 (3.9 GB)
3679 Mbyte
DVD-R Ver. 2 (4.7 GB)
4377 Mbyte
DVD-RW
4377 Mbyte
Installation Conditions
Mount the drive within 20° of the horizontal positions and within 10° of the vertical positions.
Jumper Settings
Please refer to chapter "Jumper Settings" in the manual.
Drive Reliabilities
MTBF
100,000 Hours
MTBF Assumptions
Power On Hours
5,436 Hours/Year
On/Off Cycles
313 Cycles/Year
Number Of Accesses
600,000 Accesses/Year
MTTR
0.5 Hours
Drive Life
15,000 Hours
Load/Eject
>= 10,000 Times
Interface Connector Attach/Detach
>= 20 Times
Power Connector Attach/Detach
>= 20 Times
Environmental Conditions
Temperature and Humidity
Operating Temperature
From 5 to 50 °C
Storage Temperature
From -10 to 60 °C
Operating Temperature Gradient
11 °C/Hour
Storage Temperature Gradient
20 °C/Hour
Shipping Temperature Gradient
20 °C/Hour
Operating Humidity
From 8 to 80 %
Storage Humidity
From 5 to 95 %
Shipping Humidity
From 5 to 95 %
Condensation
In all the above conditions there must be no condensation.
Dust and Dirt
Unspecified
Vibration
Operating (Read, No Hard Error)
0.25 G
Non-Operating (No damage)
1 G
Shipping (No damage)
1 G
Shock
Operating (Read, No Retry)
Horizontal
1.5 G
Vertical
0.8 G
Operating (Read, No Data Loss)
10 G
Non-Operating
No Disk Mounted (No Damage)
50 G
Drop
Individual Package
0.9 m drop once for each 6 surfaces, 1 edge and 1 corner.
Operating Pressure and Altitude
Operating
From 0 to 3,000 m
Shipping
From 0 to 12,000 m
Dimensions and Mass
External Dimensions (WxHxD)
146 x 41.5 x 193 mm
Mass (Weight)
Net.
0.99 kg
Individual Package
1.3 kg
Configuration
Optical Pick-Up
1-Lens/2-Laser System
Laser Technology
Semiconductor Laser and 1-Beam-System (DVD)
Semiconductor Laser and 3-Beam-System (CD)
Laser Wave Lengths
650 nm (DVD)
780 nm (CD)
Spindle Motor
Brushless DC-Motor
Feed Motor
DC-Motor
Load/Eject Motor
DC-Motor
Power Requirements
Source Voltage
Operating
+ 12V (+/- 5%)
+ 5V (+/- 5%)
Start-Up
+ 12V (+/- 8%)
+ 5V (+/- 8%)
Current Drain
Continuous Data Read CD (+ 5V)
880 mA
Continuous Data Read CD (+ 12V)
880 mA
Continuous Data Read DVD (+ 5V)
970 mA
Continuous Data Read DVD (+ 12V)
690 mA
Average CD (20% Random Access, + 5V)
850 mA
Average CD (20% Random Access, + 12V)
870 mA
Average DVD (20% Random Access, + 5V)
930 mA
Average DVD (20% Random Access, + 12V)
710 mA
Maximum CD (100% Random Access, + 5V)
880 mA
Maximum CD (100% Random Access, + 12V)
1,000 mA
Maximum DVD (100% Random Access, + 5V)
940 mA
Maximum DVD (100% Random Access, + 12V)
800 mA
Power Consumption
Average CD
14.7 W
Average DVD
13.2 W
Stand-By Period
1.5 W
Audio
Analog Out
Output Level
0.86 V
Type
Unbalanced
Load Impedance
47 kOhm
Frequency Response
20 to 20,000 Hz
Distortion (Attenuation)
-80 dB
Signal-To-Noise Ratio
84 dB
Digital Out
Output Level
0.65 V
Type
Unbalanced
Load Impedance
75 Ohm
Headphones Output (optional)
Output Level
0.97 V
Level Adjust Controller
Continuous Type (Thumb Wheel Knob)
Load Impedance
100 Ohm
Connector
3.5mm diameter Stereo Headphone Jack
Audio Modes
16 Modes including "Stereo", "LCh Mono", "RCh Mono" and "Mute" are selectable by command. Default mode is "Stereo". "Audio Out" is automatically muted in the digital data area and seek state.
16 Steps of attenuation level for the "Audio Out" (both "Line Out" and "Headphones Out" together) are selectable by command. Default level is 0 dB.
Interface
Applicable to
ANSI X3T10/2008D Rev. 6
ANSI X3T13/1321D Rev. 3
ATAPI SFF8020i Rev. 2.6
ATAPI SFF8090 Ver. 3
Connections and Cables
Power Supply Cable Length
<= 2 m
ATAPI Cable Length
<= 0.46 m
Audio Cable Length
<= 3 m
Electrostatic Discharge
Conforms To Standard
IEC801-2
Maintenance and Handling
Optical Pick-Up Head
Optical Pick-Up: A dirty Optical Pick-Up will degrade the access time. Please do not try to clean it yourself!
Optical Media
Optical Disk: Try to avoid touching the data area of the disk as dirt and smears will degrade the disk accessing speed. If the disk is dirty, wipe with a soft cloth from the center of the media straight to the outside.
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Drive Features SD- M 1612
Internal/External
Internal Drive
Disk Loading Mechanism
Tray-Load (Bare Disk)
Data Buffer Capacity
512 Kbyte
ROM Type
Flash-ROM
Emergency Eject
Please refer to chapter "Emergency Eject" in the manual.
Region Protection Code Level (RPC)
RPC-2
Microsoft Multimedia-PC Level
Microsoft Multimedia PC-3 compliant
Windows PC-Specifications Compliance (WHQL)
PC-2001
Drive Performance
Speed Factors
Maximum Speed Factor CD Read (CAV)
From 20.7 to 48 x
Maximum Speed Factor Audio-CD Play (PCAV)
From 4 to 5.7 x
Maximum Speed Factor CDDA Transfer
From 14 to 32 x
Maximum Speed Factor CD-RW Read (CAV)
From 20.7 to 48 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD Read (Single Layer; CAV)
From 6 to 16 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD Read (Dual Layer; CAV)
From 4.1 to 10 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD-Video Read (CSS Disk; CAV)
From 2 to 4.8 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD-RAM Read (2.6 GB/Side)
2 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD-RAM Read (4.7 GB/Side)
1 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD-R Read (CAV)
From 2 to 4.8 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD-RW Read (CAV)
From 2 to 4.8 x
Transfer Rate
Sustained Block Transfer Rate
CD (CAV)
From 1,153 to 3,600 Blocks/s
CD (PCAV)
From 300 to 450 Blocks/s
DVD (Single Layer; CAV)
From 4,455 to 10,800 Blocks/s
DVD (Dual Layer; CAV)
From 2,770 to 6,750 Blocks/s
DVD-Video (CSS Disk; CAV)
From 1,352 to 3,268 Blocks/s
DVD-RAM Ver. 1.0 (CLV)
1,352 Blocks/s
DVD-RAM Ver. 2.1 (CLV)
1,352 Blocks/s
DVD-R Ver. 1 (CAV)
From 1,352 to 3,268 Blocks/s
DVD-R Ver. 2 (CAV)
From 1,352 to 3,268 Blocks/s
DVD-RW (CAV)
From 1,352 to 3,268 Blocks/s
Sustained Data Transfer Rate
CD (Mode 1; CAV)
From 3,105 to 7,200 Kbyte/s
CD (Mode 2; CAV)
From 3,541 to 8,212 Kbyte/s
DVD (Single Layer; CAV)
From 8,910 to 21,600 Kbyte/s
DVD (Dual Layer; CAV)
From 5,540 to 13,500 Kbyte/s
DVD-Video (CSS Disk; CAV)
From 2,704 to 6,536 Kbyte/s
DVD-RAM Ver. 1.0 (CLV)
2,704 Kbyte/s
DVD-RAM Ver. 2.1 (CLV)
2,704 Kbyte/s
DVD-R Ver. 1 (CAV)
From 2,704 to 6,536 Kbyte/s
DVD-R Ver. 2 (CAV)
From 2,704 to 6,536 Kbyte/s
DVD-RW (CAV)
From 2,704 to 6,536 Kbyte/s
Burst Data Transfer Rate
PIO Mode 4
16.7 Mbyte/s
Multiple Word DMA Transfer (Mode 2)
16.7 Mbyte/s
Ultra DMA
33.3 Mbyte/s
Access Time
Average Random Access Time
CD
85 ms
DVD
95 ms
DVD-RAM
180 ms
Average Random Seek Time
CD
80 ms
DVD
85 ms
DVD-RAM
130 ms
Average Full Stroke Access Time
CD
180 ms
DVD
200 ms
Rotational Speed
CD-ROM (CAV)
9,500 rpm
CD-DA Transfer (CAV)
6,400 rpm
Audio-CD (PCAV)
From 1,200 to 2,000 rpm
Video-CD (PCAV)
From 1,200 to 2,000 rpm
CD-R (CAV)
9,500 rpm
CD-RW (CAV)
9,500 rpm
DVD (Single Layer; CAV)
9,200 rpm
DVD (Dual Layer; CAV)
6,300 rpm
DVD-Video (CSS Disk; CAV)
2,780 rpm
DVD-RAM Ver. 1.0 (CLV)
From 2,160 to 4,800 rpm
DVD-RAM Ver. 2.1 (CLV)
From 1,380 to 3,300 rpm
DVD-R (CAV)
2,780 rpm
DVD-RW (CAV)
2,780 rpm
Applicable Read Disk
CD+(E)G
CD-DA
CD-I
CD-I Bridge (Photo-CD)
CD-I Bridge (Video-CD)
CD-MIDI
CD-R
CD-ROM
CD-ROM XA
CD-RW
CD-TEXT
DVD-R
DVD-RAM 1.46 GB, 80 mm, Double Sided
DVD-RAM 1.46 GB, 80 mm, Single Sided
DVD-RAM 2.6 GB, 120 mm, Double Sided
DVD-RAM 2.6 GB, 120 mm, Single Sided
DVD-RAM 4.7 GB, 120 mm, Double Sided
DVD-RAM 4.7 GB, 120 mm, Single Sided
DVD-ROM (DVD-10)
DVD-ROM (DVD-18)
DVD-ROM (DVD-5)
DVD-ROM (DVD-9)
DVD-RW
Multisession CD-Extra
Multisession CD-R
Multisession CD-RW
Multisession Photo-CD
Load/Eject Methods
Electrical Load/Eject (Eject Button)
Emergency Eject
Load by pressing the tray
Load/Eject by ATAPI Command
Acoustic Noise
42 dB
Air Flow
Not required
Media Information
Optical Disk Diameter
120 mm
80 mm (usable only in horizontal position of the drive)
Data Block Capacity
CD (Mode 1)
2048 Byte/Block
CD (Mode 2)
2336 Byte/Block
DVD-ROM
2048 Byte/Block
DVD-RAM
2048 Byte/Block
Disk Capacity
CD (Mode 1)
656.5 Mbyte
CD (Mode 2)
748.8 Mbyte
DVD-5
4377 Mbyte
DVD-9
7959 Mbyte
DVD-10
8754 Mbyte
DVD-18
15917 Mbyte
DVD-RAM Ver. 1.0
2324 Mbyte
DVD-RAM Ver. 2.1
4377 Mbyte
DVD-R Ver. 1 (3.9 GB)
3679 Mbyte
DVD-R Ver. 2 (4.7 GB)
4377 Mbyte
DVD-RW
4377 Mbyte
Installation Conditions
Mount the drive within 20° of the horizontal positions and within 10° of the vertical positions.
Jumper Settings
Please refer to chapter "Jumper Settings" in the manual.
Drive Reliabilities
MTBF
100,000 Hours
MTBF Assumptions
Power On Hours
5,436 Hours/Year
On/Off Cycles
313 Cycles/Year
Number Of Accesses
600,000 Accesses/Year
MTTR
0.5 Hours
Drive Life
15,000 Hours
Load/Eject
>= 10,000 Times
Interface Connector Attach/Detach
>= 20 Times
Power Connector Attach/Detach
>= 20 Times
Environmental Conditions
Temperature and Humidity
Operating Temperature
From 5 to 50 °C
Storage Temperature
From -10 to 60 °C
Operating Temperature Gradient
11 °C/Hour
Storage Temperature Gradient
20 °C/Hour
Shipping Temperature Gradient
20 °C/Hour
Operating Humidity
From 8 to 80 %
Storage Humidity
From 5 to 95 %
Shipping Humidity
From 5 to 95 %
Condensation
In all the above conditions there must be no condensation.
Dust and Dirt
Unspecified
Vibration
Operating (Read, No Hard Error)
0.25 G
Non-Operating (No damage)
1 G
Shipping (No damage)
1 G
Shock
Operating (Read, No Retry)
Horizontal
1.5 G
Vertical
0.8 G
Operating (Read, No Data Loss)
10 G
Non-Operating
No Disk Mounted (No Damage)
50 G
Drop
Individual Package
0.9 m drop once for each 6 surfaces, 1 edge and 1 corner.
Operating Pressure and Altitude
Operating
From 0 to 3,000 m
Shipping
From 0 to 12,000 m
Dimensions and Mass
External Dimensions (WxHxD)
146 x 41.5 x 193 mm
Mass (Weight)
Net.
0.99 kg
Individual Package
1.3 kg
Configuration
Optical Pick-Up
1-Lens/2-Laser System
Laser Technology
Semiconductor Laser and 1-Beam-System (DVD)
Semiconductor Laser and 3-Beam-System (CD)
Laser Wave Lengths
650 nm (DVD)
780 nm (CD)
Spindle Motor
Brushless DC-Motor
Feed Motor
DC-Motor
Load/Eject Motor
DC-Motor
Power Requirements
Source Voltage
Operating
+ 12V (+/- 5%)
+ 5V (+/- 5%)
Start-Up
+ 12V (+/- 8%)
+ 5V (+/- 8%)
Current Drain
Continuous Data Read CD (+ 5V)
880 mA
Continuous Data Read CD (+ 12V)
880 mA
Continuous Data Read DVD (+ 5V)
970 mA
Continuous Data Read DVD (+ 12V)
690 mA
Average CD (20% Random Access, + 5V)
850 mA
Average CD (20% Random Access, + 12V)
870 mA
Average DVD (20% Random Access, + 5V)
930 mA
Average DVD (20% Random Access, + 12V)
710 mA
Maximum CD (100% Random Access, + 5V)
880 mA
Maximum CD (100% Random Access, + 12V)
1,000 mA
Maximum DVD (100% Random Access, + 5V)
940 mA
Maximum DVD (100% Random Access, + 12V)
800 mA
Power Consumption
Average CD
14.7 W
Average DVD
13.2 W
Stand-By Period
1.5 W
Audio
Analog Out
Output Level
0.86 V
Type
Unbalanced
Load Impedance
47 kOhm
Frequency Response
20 to 20,000 Hz
Distortion (Attenuation)
-80 dB
Signal-To-Noise Ratio
84 dB
Digital Out
Output Level
0.65 V
Type
Unbalanced
Load Impedance
75 Ohm
Headphones Output (optional)
Output Level
0.97 V
Level Adjust Controller
Continuous Type (Thumb Wheel Knob)
Load Impedance
100 Ohm
Connector
3.5mm diameter Stereo Headphone Jack
Audio Modes
16 Modes including "Stereo", "LCh Mono", "RCh Mono" and "Mute" are selectable by command. Default mode is "Stereo". "Audio Out" is automatically muted in the digital data area and seek state.
16 Steps of attenuation level for the "Audio Out" (both "Line Out" and "Headphones Out" together) are selectable by command. Default level is 0 dB.
Interface
Applicable to
ANSI X3T10/2008D Rev. 6
ANSI X3T13/1321D Rev. 3
ATAPI SFF8020i Rev. 2.6
ATAPI SFF8090 Ver. 3
Connections and Cables
Power Supply Cable Length
<= 2 m
ATAPI Cable Length
<= 0.46 m
Audio Cable Length
<= 3 m
Electrostatic Discharge
Conforms To Standard
IEC801-2
Maintenance and Handling
Optical Pick-Up Head
Optical Pick-Up: A dirty Optical Pick-Up will degrade the access time. Please do not try to clean it yourself!
Optical Media
Optical Disk: Try to avoid touching the data area of the disk as dirt and smears will degrade the disk accessing speed. If the disk is dirty, wipe with a soft cloth from the center of the media straight to the outside.
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Internal/External
Internal Drive
Disk Loading Mechanism
Tray-Load (Bare Disk)
Data Buffer Capacity
512 Kbyte
ROM Type
Flash-ROM
Emergency Eject
Please refer to chapter "Emergency Eject" in the manual.
Region Protection Code Level (RPC)
RPC-2
Microsoft Multimedia-PC Level
Microsoft Multimedia PC-3 compliant
Windows PC-Specifications Compliance (WHQL)
PC-2001
Drive Performance
Speed Factors
Maximum Speed Factor CD Read (CAV)
From 20.7 to 48 x
Maximum Speed Factor Audio-CD Play (PCAV)
From 4 to 5.7 x
Maximum Speed Factor CDDA Transfer
From 14 to 32 x
Maximum Speed Factor CD-RW Read (CAV)
From 20.7 to 48 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD Read (Single Layer; CAV)
From 6 to 16 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD Read (Dual Layer; CAV)
From 4.1 to 10 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD-Video Read (CSS Disk; CAV)
From 2 to 4.8 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD-RAM Read (2.6 GB/Side)
2 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD-RAM Read (4.7 GB/Side)
1 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD-R Read (CAV)
From 2 to 4.8 x
Maximum Speed Factor DVD-RW Read (CAV)
From 2 to 4.8 x
Transfer Rate
Sustained Block Transfer Rate
CD (CAV)
From 1,153 to 3,600 Blocks/s
CD (PCAV)
From 300 to 450 Blocks/s
DVD (Single Layer; CAV)
From 4,455 to 10,800 Blocks/s
DVD (Dual Layer; CAV)
From 2,770 to 6,750 Blocks/s
DVD-Video (CSS Disk; CAV)
From 1,352 to 3,268 Blocks/s
DVD-RAM Ver. 1.0 (CLV)
1,352 Blocks/s
DVD-RAM Ver. 2.1 (CLV)
1,352 Blocks/s
DVD-R Ver. 1 (CAV)
From 1,352 to 3,268 Blocks/s
DVD-R Ver. 2 (CAV)
From 1,352 to 3,268 Blocks/s
DVD-RW (CAV)
From 1,352 to 3,268 Blocks/s
Sustained Data Transfer Rate
CD (Mode 1; CAV)
From 3,105 to 7,200 Kbyte/s
CD (Mode 2; CAV)
From 3,541 to 8,212 Kbyte/s
DVD (Single Layer; CAV)
From 8,910 to 21,600 Kbyte/s
DVD (Dual Layer; CAV)
From 5,540 to 13,500 Kbyte/s
DVD-Video (CSS Disk; CAV)
From 2,704 to 6,536 Kbyte/s
DVD-RAM Ver. 1.0 (CLV)
2,704 Kbyte/s
DVD-RAM Ver. 2.1 (CLV)
2,704 Kbyte/s
DVD-R Ver. 1 (CAV)
From 2,704 to 6,536 Kbyte/s
DVD-R Ver. 2 (CAV)
From 2,704 to 6,536 Kbyte/s
DVD-RW (CAV)
From 2,704 to 6,536 Kbyte/s
Burst Data Transfer Rate
PIO Mode 4
16.7 Mbyte/s
Multiple Word DMA Transfer (Mode 2)
16.7 Mbyte/s
Ultra DMA
33.3 Mbyte/s
Access Time
Average Random Access Time
CD
85 ms
DVD
95 ms
DVD-RAM
180 ms
Average Random Seek Time
CD
80 ms
DVD
85 ms
DVD-RAM
130 ms
Average Full Stroke Access Time
CD
180 ms
DVD
200 ms
Rotational Speed
CD-ROM (CAV)
9,500 rpm
CD-DA Transfer (CAV)
6,400 rpm
Audio-CD (PCAV)
From 1,200 to 2,000 rpm
Video-CD (PCAV)
From 1,200 to 2,000 rpm
CD-R (CAV)
9,500 rpm
CD-RW (CAV)
9,500 rpm
DVD (Single Layer; CAV)
9,200 rpm
DVD (Dual Layer; CAV)
6,300 rpm
DVD-Video (CSS Disk; CAV)
2,780 rpm
DVD-RAM Ver. 1.0 (CLV)
From 2,160 to 4,800 rpm
DVD-RAM Ver. 2.1 (CLV)
From 1,380 to 3,300 rpm
DVD-R (CAV)
2,780 rpm
DVD-RW (CAV)
2,780 rpm
Applicable Read Disk
CD+(E)G
CD-DA
CD-I
CD-I Bridge (Photo-CD)
CD-I Bridge (Video-CD)
CD-MIDI
CD-R
CD-ROM
CD-ROM XA
CD-RW
CD-TEXT
DVD-R
DVD-RAM 1.46 GB, 80 mm, Double Sided
DVD-RAM 1.46 GB, 80 mm, Single Sided
DVD-RAM 2.6 GB, 120 mm, Double Sided
DVD-RAM 2.6 GB, 120 mm, Single Sided
DVD-RAM 4.7 GB, 120 mm, Double Sided
DVD-RAM 4.7 GB, 120 mm, Single Sided
DVD-ROM (DVD-10)
DVD-ROM (DVD-18)
DVD-ROM (DVD-5)
DVD-ROM (DVD-9)
DVD-RW
Multisession CD-Extra
Multisession CD-R
Multisession CD-RW
Multisession Photo-CD
Load/Eject Methods
Electrical Load/Eject (Eject Button)
Emergency Eject
Load by pressing the tray
Load/Eject by ATAPI Command
Acoustic Noise
42 dB
Air Flow
Not required
Media Information
Optical Disk Diameter
120 mm
80 mm (usable only in horizontal position of the drive)
Data Block Capacity
CD (Mode 1)
2048 Byte/Block
CD (Mode 2)
2336 Byte/Block
DVD-ROM
2048 Byte/Block
DVD-RAM
2048 Byte/Block
Disk Capacity
CD (Mode 1)
656.5 Mbyte
CD (Mode 2)
748.8 Mbyte
DVD-5
4377 Mbyte
DVD-9
7959 Mbyte
DVD-10
8754 Mbyte
DVD-18
15917 Mbyte
DVD-RAM Ver. 1.0
2324 Mbyte
DVD-RAM Ver. 2.1
4377 Mbyte
DVD-R Ver. 1 (3.9 GB)
3679 Mbyte
DVD-R Ver. 2 (4.7 GB)
4377 Mbyte
DVD-RW
4377 Mbyte
Installation Conditions
Mount the drive within 20° of the horizontal positions and within 10° of the vertical positions.
Jumper Settings
Please refer to chapter "Jumper Settings" in the manual.
Drive Reliabilities
MTBF
100,000 Hours
MTBF Assumptions
Power On Hours
5,436 Hours/Year
On/Off Cycles
313 Cycles/Year
Number Of Accesses
600,000 Accesses/Year
MTTR
0.5 Hours
Drive Life
15,000 Hours
Load/Eject
>= 10,000 Times
Interface Connector Attach/Detach
>= 20 Times
Power Connector Attach/Detach
>= 20 Times
Environmental Conditions
Temperature and Humidity
Operating Temperature
From 5 to 50 °C
Storage Temperature
From -10 to 60 °C
Operating Temperature Gradient
11 °C/Hour
Storage Temperature Gradient
20 °C/Hour
Shipping Temperature Gradient
20 °C/Hour
Operating Humidity
From 8 to 80 %
Storage Humidity
From 5 to 95 %
Shipping Humidity
From 5 to 95 %
Condensation
In all the above conditions there must be no condensation.
Dust and Dirt
Unspecified
Vibration
Operating (Read, No Hard Error)
0.25 G
Non-Operating (No damage)
1 G
Shipping (No damage)
1 G
Shock
Operating (Read, No Retry)
Horizontal
1.5 G
Vertical
0.8 G
Operating (Read, No Data Loss)
10 G
Non-Operating
No Disk Mounted (No Damage)
50 G
Drop
Individual Package
0.9 m drop once for each 6 surfaces, 1 edge and 1 corner.
Operating Pressure and Altitude
Operating
From 0 to 3,000 m
Shipping
From 0 to 12,000 m
Dimensions and Mass
External Dimensions (WxHxD)
146 x 41.5 x 193 mm
Mass (Weight)
Net.
0.99 kg
Individual Package
1.3 kg
Configuration
Optical Pick-Up
1-Lens/2-Laser System
Laser Technology
Semiconductor Laser and 1-Beam-System (DVD)
Semiconductor Laser and 3-Beam-System (CD)
Laser Wave Lengths
650 nm (DVD)
780 nm (CD)
Spindle Motor
Brushless DC-Motor
Feed Motor
DC-Motor
Load/Eject Motor
DC-Motor
Power Requirements
Source Voltage
Operating
+ 12V (+/- 5%)
+ 5V (+/- 5%)
Start-Up
+ 12V (+/- 8%)
+ 5V (+/- 8%)
Current Drain
Continuous Data Read CD (+ 5V)
880 mA
Continuous Data Read CD (+ 12V)
880 mA
Continuous Data Read DVD (+ 5V)
970 mA
Continuous Data Read DVD (+ 12V)
690 mA
Average CD (20% Random Access, + 5V)
850 mA
Average CD (20% Random Access, + 12V)
870 mA
Average DVD (20% Random Access, + 5V)
930 mA
Average DVD (20% Random Access, + 12V)
710 mA
Maximum CD (100% Random Access, + 5V)
880 mA
Maximum CD (100% Random Access, + 12V)
1,000 mA
Maximum DVD (100% Random Access, + 5V)
940 mA
Maximum DVD (100% Random Access, + 12V)
800 mA
Power Consumption
Average CD
14.7 W
Average DVD
13.2 W
Stand-By Period
1.5 W
Audio
Analog Out
Output Level
0.86 V
Type
Unbalanced
Load Impedance
47 kOhm
Frequency Response
20 to 20,000 Hz
Distortion (Attenuation)
-80 dB
Signal-To-Noise Ratio
84 dB
Digital Out
Output Level
0.65 V
Type
Unbalanced
Load Impedance
75 Ohm
Headphones Output (optional)
Output Level
0.97 V
Level Adjust Controller
Continuous Type (Thumb Wheel Knob)
Load Impedance
100 Ohm
Connector
3.5mm diameter Stereo Headphone Jack
Audio Modes
16 Modes including "Stereo", "LCh Mono", "RCh Mono" and "Mute" are selectable by command. Default mode is "Stereo". "Audio Out" is automatically muted in the digital data area and seek state.
16 Steps of attenuation level for the "Audio Out" (both "Line Out" and "Headphones Out" together) are selectable by command. Default level is 0 dB.
Interface
Applicable to
ANSI X3T10/2008D Rev. 6
ANSI X3T13/1321D Rev. 3
ATAPI SFF8020i Rev. 2.6
ATAPI SFF8090 Ver. 3
Connections and Cables
Power Supply Cable Length
<= 2 m
ATAPI Cable Length
<= 0.46 m
Audio Cable Length
<= 3 m
Electrostatic Discharge
Conforms To Standard
IEC801-2
Maintenance and Handling
Optical Pick-Up Head
Optical Pick-Up: A dirty Optical Pick-Up will degrade the access time. Please do not try to clean it yourself!
Optical Media
Optical Disk: Try to avoid touching the data area of the disk as dirt and smears will degrade the disk accessing speed. If the disk is dirty, wipe with a soft cloth from the center of the media straight to the outside.
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CoolerMaster
Lt. Commander
- Registriert
- Okt. 2001
- Beiträge
- 1.068
Nein, eigentlich nicht ausser der Cache.
Vielleicht gibts bald einmal ein Test.
Vielleicht gibts bald einmal ein Test.
CoolerMaster
Lt. Commander
- Registriert
- Okt. 2001
- Beiträge
- 1.068
Naja, Cache ist nicht alles. Ausserdem sind die Preise für DVD-ROMs in der letzten Zeit allgemein Höher.
Das Drive ist sicher in vielen Bereichen vorallem auf Geräuschekulisse optimiert worden.
Das Drive ist sicher in vielen Bereichen vorallem auf Geräuschekulisse optimiert worden.
Blutschlumpf
Fleet Admiral
- Registriert
- März 2001
- Beiträge
- 20.415
Was heißt hier teurer ?
Laut Geizhals gibts beide für kanpp 50 €
Ich denke mal, dass Toshiba das 1612 einfach nicht mehr produzieren wird, so wie damals, beim 1502 als das 1612 rauskam
Laut Geizhals gibts beide für kanpp 50 €
Ich denke mal, dass Toshiba das 1612 einfach nicht mehr produzieren wird, so wie damals, beim 1502 als das 1612 rauskam
