News Betrug mit Seagate-Festplatten: Händler verkaufen gebrauchte HDDs als Neuware

[WilliTheSmith]

Hab letztens erst 2x 16TB Seagate Exos X X16 bei MF geordert und nun einfach mal per Seagate die Garantie gesheckt, und siehe da, auch ich hab wohl ein solches exemplar erwischt:

Das hat noch nichts zu bedeuten. Links ist eine Retail-Platte. Kann durchaus sein, dass sie neu ist und nur lange im Lager lag. Oder Insolvenzmasse gekauft, Überschuss von RZ-Betreiber aufgekauft oder was auch immer. Rechts ist eine OEM-Platte ohne Garantie und die sind auch weit verbreitet und werden in den Shops normalerweise nicht gekennzeichnet. Gewissheit wirst du nur haben, wenn die die FARM Logs prüfst.

 

[Snoopy69]

Er könnte künftig sogar noch mehr sparen, wenn Kost und Logis der Staat übernimmt.

Spoiler: Ist leider nicht umsonst... ;)

https://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/...und-logis-im-knast-bezahlen_id_260578986.html

Ergänzung (Gestern um 22:14)

Bei 36000 Stunden eribt das eine Laufzeit von 4,10 Jahren!?
Korelliert das mit dem Herstellungsdatum der Platte?

Würde mich auch interessieren

 

[Contor]

@WilliTheSmith

Ich kann damit leider nicht wirklich was anfangen:

Spoiler: smartmon werte

"C:\Program Files\smartmontools\bin\smartctl.exe" -x F:\

smartctl 7.4 2023-08-01 r5530 [x86_64-w64-mingw32-w11-b26100] (sf-7.4-1)
Copyright (C) 2002-23, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Seagate Exos X16
Device Model: ST16000NM001G-2KK103
Serial Number: ZL2KE0D6
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 0dbde08c0
Firmware Version: SN03
User Capacity: 16.000.900.661.248 bytes [16,0 TB]
Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Form Factor: 3.5 inches
Device is: In smartctl database 7.3/5528
ATA Version is: ACS-4 (minor revision not indicated)
SATA Version is: SATA 3.3, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is: Wed Jan 29 22:25:10 2025 MZ
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled
AAM feature is: Unavailable
APM feature is: Unavailable
Rd look-ahead is: Enabled
Write cache is: Enabled
DSN feature is: Disabled
ATA Security is: Disabled, frozen [SEC2]
Write SCT (Get) Feature Control Command failed: Input/output error
Wt Cache Reorder: Unknown (SCT Feature Control command failed)

Read SMART Data failed: Input/output error

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General Purpose Log Directory Version 1
SMART Log Directory Version 1 [multi-sector log support]
Address Access R/W Size Description
0x00 GPL,SL R/O 1 Log Directory
0x01 SL R/O 1 Summary SMART error log
0x02 SL R/O 5 Comprehensive SMART error log
0x03 GPL R/O 5 Ext. Comprehensive SMART error log
0x04 GPL R/O 256 Device Statistics log
0x04 SL R/O 8 Device Statistics log
0x06 SL R/O 1 SMART self-test log
0x07 GPL R/O 1 Extended self-test log
0x08 GPL R/O 2 Power Conditions log
0x09 SL R/W 1 Selective self-test log
0x0a GPL R/W 8 Device Statistics Notification
0x0c GPL R/O 2048 Pending Defects log
0x10 GPL R/O 1 NCQ Command Error log
0x11 GPL R/O 1 SATA Phy Event Counters log
0x13 GPL R/O 1 SATA NCQ Send and Receive log
0x21 GPL R/O 1 Write stream error log
0x22 GPL R/O 1 Read stream error log
0x24 GPL R/O 768 Current Device Internal Status Data log
0x2f GPL R/O 1 Set Sector Configuration
0x30 GPL,SL R/O 9 IDENTIFY DEVICE data log
0x80-0x9f GPL,SL R/W 16 Host vendor specific log
0xa1 GPL,SL VS 160 Device vendor specific log
0xa2 GPL VS 16320 Device vendor specific log
0xa4 GPL,SL VS 160 Device vendor specific log
0xa6 GPL VS 192 Device vendor specific log
0xa8-0xa9 GPL,SL VS 136 Device vendor specific log
0xab GPL VS 1 Device vendor specific log
0xad GPL VS 16 Device vendor specific log
0xbe-0xbf GPL VS 65535 Device vendor specific log
0xc1 GPL,SL VS 8 Device vendor specific log
0xc3 GPL,SL VS 56 Device vendor specific log
0xc7 GPL,SL VS 8 Device vendor specific log
0xc9 GPL,SL VS 8 Device vendor specific log
0xca GPL,SL VS 16 Device vendor specific log
0xcd GPL,SL VS 1 Device vendor specific log
0xce GPL VS 1 Device vendor specific log
0xcf GPL VS 512 Device vendor specific log
0xd1 GPL VS 656 Device vendor specific log
0xd2 GPL VS 10000 Device vendor specific log
0xd4 GPL VS 2048 Device vendor specific log
0xda GPL,SL VS 1 Device vendor specific log
0xe0 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Command/Status
0xe1 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Data Transfer
0xe2 GPL,SL - 160 Reserved

SMART Extended Comprehensive Error Log Version: 1 (5 sectors)
No Errors Logged

SMART Extended Self-test Log Version: 1 (1 sectors)
No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]

Selective Self-tests/Logging not supported

SCT Status Version: 3
SCT Version (vendor specific): 522 (0x020a)
Device State: Active (0)
Current Temperature: 31 Celsius
Power Cycle Min/Max Temperature: 26/39 Celsius
Lifetime Min/Max Temperature: 23/39 Celsius
Under/Over Temperature Limit Count: 0/0
SMART Status: 0xc24f (PASSED)
Vendor specific:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

SCT Temperature History Version: 2
Temperature Sampling Period: 4 minutes
Temperature Logging Interval: 59 minutes
Min/Max recommended Temperature: 10/40 Celsius
Min/Max Temperature Limit: 5/60 Celsius
Temperature History Size (Index): 128 (17)

Index Estimated Time Temperature Celsius
18 2025-01-24 16:35 ? -
... ..(108 skipped). .. -
127 2025-01-29 03:46 ? -
0 2025-01-29 04:45 29 **********
1 2025-01-29 05:44 ? -
2 2025-01-29 06:43 23 ****
3 2025-01-29 07:42 ? -
4 2025-01-29 08:41 26 *******
5 2025-01-29 09:40 37 ******************
6 2025-01-29 10:39 38 *******************
7 2025-01-29 11:38 38 *******************
8 2025-01-29 12:37 37 ******************
9 2025-01-29 13:36 33 **************
10 2025-01-29 14:35 30 ***********
11 2025-01-29 15:34 31 ************
12 2025-01-29 16:33 29 **********
13 2025-01-29 17:32 29 **********
14 2025-01-29 18:31 29 **********
15 2025-01-29 19:30 30 ***********
16 2025-01-29 20:29 30 ***********
17 2025-01-29 21:28 30 ***********

SCT Error Recovery Control:
Read: 100 (10,0 seconds)
Write: 100 (10,0 seconds)

Device Statistics (GP Log 0x04)
Page Offset Size Value Flags Description
0x01 ===== = = === == General Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x01 0x008 4 2 --- Lifetime Power-On Resets
0x01 0x010 4 13 --- Power-on Hours
0x01 0x018 6 7351181876 --- Logical Sectors Written
0x01 0x020 6 28735409 --- Number of Write Commands
0x01 0x028 6 2179735 --- Logical Sectors Read
0x01 0x030 6 11203 --- Number of Read Commands
0x01 0x038 6 1738185902599 --- Date and Time TimeStamp
0x03 ===== = = === == Rotating Media Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x03 0x008 4 13 --- Spindle Motor Power-on Hours
0x03 0x010 4 13 --- Head Flying Hours
0x03 0x018 4 19 --- Head Load Events
0x03 0x020 4 0 --- Number of Reallocated Logical Sectors
0x03 0x028 4 0 --- Read Recovery Attempts
0x03 0x030 4 0 --- Number of Mechanical Start Failures
0x03 0x038 4 0 --- Number of Realloc. Candidate Logical Sectors
0x03 0x040 4 0 --- Number of High Priority Unload Events
0x04 ===== = = === == General Errors Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x04 0x008 4 0 --- Number of Reported Uncorrectable Errors
0x04 0x010 4 0 --- Resets Between Cmd Acceptance and Completion
0x04 0x018 4 0 -D- Physical Element Status Changed
0x05 ===== = = === == Temperature Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x05 0x008 1 31 --- Current Temperature
0x05 0x010 1 - --- Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x018 1 - --- Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x020 1 39 --- Highest Temperature
0x05 0x028 1 23 --- Lowest Temperature
0x05 0x030 1 - --- Highest Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x038 1 - --- Lowest Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x040 1 - --- Highest Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x048 1 - --- Lowest Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x050 4 0 --- Time in Over-Temperature
0x05 0x058 1 60 --- Specified Maximum Operating Temperature
0x05 0x060 4 0 --- Time in Under-Temperature
0x05 0x068 1 5 --- Specified Minimum Operating Temperature
0x06 ===== = = === == Transport Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x06 0x008 4 3 --- Number of Hardware Resets
0x06 0x010 4 3 --- Number of ASR Events
0x06 0x018 4 0 --- Number of Interface CRC Errors
0xff ===== = = === == Vendor Specific Statistics (rev 1) ==
0xff 0x008 7 0 --- Vendor Specific
0xff 0x010 7 0 --- Vendor Specific
0xff 0x018 7 0 --- Vendor Specific
|||_ C monitored condition met
||__ D supports DSN
|___ N normalized value

Pending Defects log (GP Log 0x0c)
No Defects Logged

SATA Phy Event Counters (GP Log 0x11)
ID Size Value Description
0x000a 2 2 Device-to-host register FISes sent due to a COMRESET
0x0001 2 0 Command failed due to ICRC error
0x0003 2 0 R_ERR response for device-to-host data FIS
0x0004 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device data FIS
0x0006 2 0 R_ERR response for device-to-host non-data FIS
0x0007 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device non-data FIS

Seagate FARM log (GP Log 0xa6) supported [try: -l farm]


Exitcode: 4 (0x04)
Type <return> to exit:

 

[Snoopy69]

Ernsthaft... Ich würde eine der Offiziell von Seagate refurbishten kaufen, Backup braucht man eh, also warum nicht die Ersparnis mitnehmen, bei neuen bekommt man aktuell scheinbar ja auch nix anderes.

Oder WD in deren eigenen Online Shop, die werden ja nicht selbst so etwas abziehen. Kostet aber mehr. Seagate scheint keinen eigenen Store zu haben

Aber ebay...
https://investors.seagate.com/news/...d-Hard-Drive-Circularity-Program/default.aspx

“eBay is proud to work with Seagate on this exciting partnership,” said Renée Morin, eBay’s Chief Sustainability Officer. “Refurbishing items gives them a longer life and generally reduces greenhouse gas emissions. In our efforts to be a responsible, sustainable marketplace, this collaboration shows that we all have a part to play.”

So kann man auch CO2 reduzieren und Ressourcen sparen
Überhaupt stehe ich eher auf reparieren/aufbereiten, als auf neu kaufen und würde mir mehr Repairshops wünschen
(schmeckt der Industrie aber nicht)

Ergänzung (Gestern um 23:14)

Sind auch die refurbished-HDDs direkt vom Seagate RMA-Service betroffen? Wäre krass, wenn selbt Seagate Niederlassungen "unterwandert wären"...

Spoiler: Wie meinst du das konkret?

Habe letztes Jahr insgesamt 10x 16TB (angeblich "factory recertified) gekauft. SMART und FARM aller HDDs sind identisch

Davon 4x EXOS X18 - und 6x SkyHawk AI (<- peinlicher "AI-Marketing-Käse" )

Ergänzung (Gestern um 23:17)

@WilliTheSmith

Ich kann damit leider nicht wirklich was anfangen:

Spoiler: smartmon werte

"C:\Program Files\smartmontools\bin\smartctl.exe" -x F:\

smartctl 7.4 2023-08-01 r5530 [x86_64-w64-mingw32-w11-b26100] (sf-7.4-1)
Copyright (C) 2002-23, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Seagate Exos X16
Device Model: ST16000NM001G-2KK103
Serial Number: ZL2KE0D6
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 0dbde08c0
Firmware Version: SN03
User Capacity: 16.000.900.661.248 bytes [16,0 TB]
Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Form Factor: 3.5 inches
Device is: In smartctl database 7.3/5528
ATA Version is: ACS-4 (minor revision not indicated)
SATA Version is: SATA 3.3, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is: Wed Jan 29 22:25:10 2025 MZ
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled
AAM feature is: Unavailable
APM feature is: Unavailable
Rd look-ahead is: Enabled
Write cache is: Enabled
DSN feature is: Disabled
ATA Security is: Disabled, frozen [SEC2]
Write SCT (Get) Feature Control Command failed: Input/output error
Wt Cache Reorder: Unknown (SCT Feature Control command failed)

Read SMART Data failed: Input/output error

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General Purpose Log Directory Version 1
SMART Log Directory Version 1 [multi-sector log support]
Address Access R/W Size Description
0x00 GPL,SL R/O 1 Log Directory
0x01 SL R/O 1 Summary SMART error log
0x02 SL R/O 5 Comprehensive SMART error log
0x03 GPL R/O 5 Ext. Comprehensive SMART error log
0x04 GPL R/O 256 Device Statistics log
0x04 SL R/O 8 Device Statistics log
0x06 SL R/O 1 SMART self-test log
0x07 GPL R/O 1 Extended self-test log
0x08 GPL R/O 2 Power Conditions log
0x09 SL R/W 1 Selective self-test log
0x0a GPL R/W 8 Device Statistics Notification
0x0c GPL R/O 2048 Pending Defects log
0x10 GPL R/O 1 NCQ Command Error log
0x11 GPL R/O 1 SATA Phy Event Counters log
0x13 GPL R/O 1 SATA NCQ Send and Receive log
0x21 GPL R/O 1 Write stream error log
0x22 GPL R/O 1 Read stream error log
0x24 GPL R/O 768 Current Device Internal Status Data log
0x2f GPL R/O 1 Set Sector Configuration
0x30 GPL,SL R/O 9 IDENTIFY DEVICE data log
0x80-0x9f GPL,SL R/W 16 Host vendor specific log
0xa1 GPL,SL VS 160 Device vendor specific log
0xa2 GPL VS 16320 Device vendor specific log
0xa4 GPL,SL VS 160 Device vendor specific log
0xa6 GPL VS 192 Device vendor specific log
0xa8-0xa9 GPL,SL VS 136 Device vendor specific log
0xab GPL VS 1 Device vendor specific log
0xad GPL VS 16 Device vendor specific log
0xbe-0xbf GPL VS 65535 Device vendor specific log
0xc1 GPL,SL VS 8 Device vendor specific log
0xc3 GPL,SL VS 56 Device vendor specific log
0xc7 GPL,SL VS 8 Device vendor specific log
0xc9 GPL,SL VS 8 Device vendor specific log
0xca GPL,SL VS 16 Device vendor specific log
0xcd GPL,SL VS 1 Device vendor specific log
0xce GPL VS 1 Device vendor specific log
0xcf GPL VS 512 Device vendor specific log
0xd1 GPL VS 656 Device vendor specific log
0xd2 GPL VS 10000 Device vendor specific log
0xd4 GPL VS 2048 Device vendor specific log
0xda GPL,SL VS 1 Device vendor specific log
0xe0 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Command/Status
0xe1 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Data Transfer
0xe2 GPL,SL - 160 Reserved

SMART Extended Comprehensive Error Log Version: 1 (5 sectors)
No Errors Logged

SMART Extended Self-test Log Version: 1 (1 sectors)
No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]

Selective Self-tests/Logging not supported

SCT Status Version: 3
SCT Version (vendor specific): 522 (0x020a)
Device State: Active (0)
Current Temperature: 31 Celsius
Power Cycle Min/Max Temperature: 26/39 Celsius
Lifetime Min/Max Temperature: 23/39 Celsius
Under/Over Temperature Limit Count: 0/0
SMART Status: 0xc24f (PASSED)
Vendor specific:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

SCT Temperature History Version: 2
Temperature Sampling Period: 4 minutes
Temperature Logging Interval: 59 minutes
Min/Max recommended Temperature: 10/40 Celsius
Min/Max Temperature Limit: 5/60 Celsius
Temperature History Size (Index): 128 (17)

Index Estimated Time Temperature Celsius
18 2025-01-24 16:35 ? -
... ..(108 skipped). .. -
127 2025-01-29 03:46 ? -
0 2025-01-29 04:45 29 **********
1 2025-01-29 05:44 ? -
2 2025-01-29 06:43 23 ****
3 2025-01-29 07:42 ? -
4 2025-01-29 08:41 26 *******
5 2025-01-29 09:40 37 ******************
6 2025-01-29 10:39 38 *******************
7 2025-01-29 11:38 38 *******************
8 2025-01-29 12:37 37 ******************
9 2025-01-29 13:36 33 **************
10 2025-01-29 14:35 30 ***********
11 2025-01-29 15:34 31 ************
12 2025-01-29 16:33 29 **********
13 2025-01-29 17:32 29 **********
14 2025-01-29 18:31 29 **********
15 2025-01-29 19:30 30 ***********
16 2025-01-29 20:29 30 ***********
17 2025-01-29 21:28 30 ***********

SCT Error Recovery Control:
Read: 100 (10,0 seconds)
Write: 100 (10,0 seconds)

Device Statistics (GP Log 0x04)
Page Offset Size Value Flags Description
0x01 ===== = = === == General Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x01 0x008 4 2 --- Lifetime Power-On Resets
0x01 0x010 4 13 --- Power-on Hours
0x01 0x018 6 7351181876 --- Logical Sectors Written
0x01 0x020 6 28735409 --- Number of Write Commands
0x01 0x028 6 2179735 --- Logical Sectors Read
0x01 0x030 6 11203 --- Number of Read Commands
0x01 0x038 6 1738185902599 --- Date and Time TimeStamp
0x03 ===== = = === == Rotating Media Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x03 0x008 4 13 --- Spindle Motor Power-on Hours
0x03 0x010 4 13 --- Head Flying Hours
0x03 0x018 4 19 --- Head Load Events
0x03 0x020 4 0 --- Number of Reallocated Logical Sectors
0x03 0x028 4 0 --- Read Recovery Attempts
0x03 0x030 4 0 --- Number of Mechanical Start Failures
0x03 0x038 4 0 --- Number of Realloc. Candidate Logical Sectors
0x03 0x040 4 0 --- Number of High Priority Unload Events
0x04 ===== = = === == General Errors Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x04 0x008 4 0 --- Number of Reported Uncorrectable Errors
0x04 0x010 4 0 --- Resets Between Cmd Acceptance and Completion
0x04 0x018 4 0 -D- Physical Element Status Changed
0x05 ===== = = === == Temperature Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x05 0x008 1 31 --- Current Temperature
0x05 0x010 1 - --- Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x018 1 - --- Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x020 1 39 --- Highest Temperature
0x05 0x028 1 23 --- Lowest Temperature
0x05 0x030 1 - --- Highest Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x038 1 - --- Lowest Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x040 1 - --- Highest Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x048 1 - --- Lowest Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x050 4 0 --- Time in Over-Temperature
0x05 0x058 1 60 --- Specified Maximum Operating Temperature
0x05 0x060 4 0 --- Time in Under-Temperature
0x05 0x068 1 5 --- Specified Minimum Operating Temperature
0x06 ===== = = === == Transport Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x06 0x008 4 3 --- Number of Hardware Resets
0x06 0x010 4 3 --- Number of ASR Events
0x06 0x018 4 0 --- Number of Interface CRC Errors
0xff ===== = = === == Vendor Specific Statistics (rev 1) ==
0xff 0x008 7 0 --- Vendor Specific
0xff 0x010 7 0 --- Vendor Specific
0xff 0x018 7 0 --- Vendor Specific
|||_ C monitored condition met
||__ D supports DSN
|___ N normalized value

Pending Defects log (GP Log 0x0c)
No Defects Logged

SATA Phy Event Counters (GP Log 0x11)
ID Size Value Description
0x000a 2 2 Device-to-host register FISes sent due to a COMRESET
0x0001 2 0 Command failed due to ICRC error
0x0003 2 0 R_ERR response for device-to-host data FIS
0x0004 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device data FIS
0x0006 2 0 R_ERR response for device-to-host non-data FIS
0x0007 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device non-data FIS

Seagate FARM log (GP Log 0xa6) supported [try: -l farm]


Exitcode: 4 (0x04)
Type <return> to exit:

Du musst "smartctl -l farm sda" angeben

Ergänzung (Gestern um 23:29)

K.A. ob es relevant ist, aber prüft mal bitte den "Stempel" (ist im Chassis gegossen), was da steht
Die als "neu" verkaufte EXOS X20 hat da „22“ stehen. Wenn ich es richtig lese „Jan 2022“!?

Wofür die "liegende Leiter" mit den 4 Bohrungen und das "Gitter" stehen - k.A. - Weiss das jmd?

 

[Contor]

Snoopy69

Spoiler: so?

PS F:\> smartctl -l farm sda
smartctl 7.4 2023-08-01 r5530 [x86_64-w64-mingw32-w11-b26100] (sf-7.4-1)
Copyright (C) 2002-23, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

Seagate Field Access Reliability Metrics log (FARM) (GP Log 0xa6)
FARM Log Page 0: Log Header
FARM Log Version: 3.7
Pages Supported: 6
Log Size: 98304
Page Size: 16384
Heads Supported: 24
Number of Copies: 0
Reason for Frame Capture: 0
FARM Log Page 1: Drive Information
Serial Number: ZL2KE0D6
World Wide Name: 0x5000c500dbde08c0
Device Interface: SATA
Device Capacity in Sectors: 31251759104
Physical Sector Size: 4096
Logical Sector Size: 512
Device Buffer Size: 268435456
Number of Heads: 18
Device Form Factor: 3.5 inches
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Firmware Rev: SN03
ATA Security State (ID Word 128): 0x01629
ATA Features Supported (ID Word 78): 0x016cc
ATA Features Enabled (ID Word 79): 0x0000000000000040
Power on Hours: 24074
Spindle Power on Hours: 15
Head Flight Hours: 14
Head Load Events: 21
Power Cycle Count: 22
Hardware Reset Count: 3
Spin-up Time: 0 ms
Time to ready of the last power cycle: 19177 ms
Time drive is held in staggered spin: 0 ms
Model Number: ST16000NM001G-2KK103
Drive Recording Type: CMR
Max Number of Available Sectors for Reassignment: 57754
Assembly Date (YYWW):
Depopulation Head Mask: 0
FARM Log Page 2: Workload Statistics
Total Number of Read Commands: 1999135991
Total Number of Write Commands: 876413124
Total Number of Random Read Commands: 294014800
Total Number of Random Write Commands: 108274855
Total Number Of Other Commands: 12886156
Logical Sectors Written: 194730054405
Logical Sectors Read: 1851759114067
Number of dither events during current power cycle: 219
Number of times dither was held off during random workloads: 231
Number of times dither was held off during sequential workloads: 875634
Number of Read commands from 0-3.125% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Read commands from 3.125-25% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Read commands from 25-75% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Read commands from 75-100% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 0-3.125% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 3.125-25% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 25-75% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 75-100% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
FARM Log Page 3: Error Statistics
Unrecoverable Read Errors: 0
Unrecoverable Write Errors: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors: 0
Number of Read Recovery Attempts: 0
Number of Mechanical Start Failures: 0
Number of Reallocated Candidate Sectors: 0
Number of ASR Events: 3
Number of Interface CRC Errors: 0
Spin Retry Count: 0
Spin Retry Count Normalized: 100
Spin Retry Count Worst: 100
Number of IOEDC Errors (Raw): 0
CTO Count Total: 0
CTO Count Over 5s: 0
CTO Count Over 7.5s: 0
Total Flash LED (Assert) Events: 0
Index of the last Flash LED: 0
Flash LED Event 0:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 0 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 0: 0
Flash LED Event 1:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 1 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 1: 0
Flash LED Event 2:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 2 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 2: 0
Flash LED Event 3:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 3 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 3: 0
Flash LED Event 4:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 4 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 4: 0
Flash LED Event 5:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 5 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 5: 0
Flash LED Event 6:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 6 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 6: 0
Flash LED Event 7:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 7 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 7: 0
Uncorrectable errors: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read errors due to ERC: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 0:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 1:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 2:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 3:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 4:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 5:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 6:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 7:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 8:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 9:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 10:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 11:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 12:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 13:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 14:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 15:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 16:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 17:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
FARM Log Page 4: Environment Statistics
Current Temperature (Celsius): 31
Highest Temperature: 39
Lowest Temperature: 23
Average Short Term Temperature: 0
Average Long Term Temperature: 0
Highest Average Short Term Temperature: 0
Lowest Average Short Term Temperature: 0
Highest Average Long Term Temperature: 0
Lowest Average Long Term Temperature: 0
Time In Over Temperature (minutes): 0
Time In Under Temperature (minutes): 0
Specified Max Operating Temperature: 60
Specified Min Operating Temperature: 5
Current Relative Humidity: 0
Current Motor Power: 4454
Current 12 volts: 12.117
Minimum 12 volts: 11.792
Maximum 12 volts: 12.197
Current 5 volts: 5.073
Minimum 5 volts: 5.018
Maximum 5 volts: 5.177
12V Power Average: 0.000
12V Power Minimum: 0.000
12V Power Maximum: 0.000
5V Power Average: 0.000
5V Power Minimum: 0.000
5V Power Maximum: 0.000
FARM Log Page 5: Reliability Statistics
Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Raw): 0x0000000001608bd0
Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Normalized): 74
Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Worst): 65
Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Raw): 0x00000000001ac391
Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Normalized): 62
Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Worst): 60
High Priority Unload Events: 0
Helium Pressure Threshold Tripped: 0
LBAs Corrected By Parity Sector: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 1: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 2: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 4: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 5: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 7: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 8: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 9: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 10: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 11: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 12: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 13: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 14: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 15: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 16: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 17: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 1: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 2: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 4: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 5: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 7: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 8: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 9: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 10: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 11: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 12: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 13: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 14: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 15: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 16: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 17: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 1: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 2: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 4: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 5: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 7: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 8: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 9: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 10: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 11: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 12: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 13: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 14: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 15: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 16: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 17: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 0: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 1: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 2: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 3: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 4: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 5: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 6: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 7: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 8: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 9: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 10: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 11: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 12: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 13: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 14: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 15: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 16: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 17: 0
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 0: 709
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 1: 721
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 2: 718
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 3: 654
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 4: 746
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 5: 763
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 6: 744
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 7: 737
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 8: 686
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 9: 739
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 10: 730
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 11: 663
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 12: 751
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 13: 748
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 14: 778
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 15: 648
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 16: 748
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 17: 711
MR Head Resistance from Head 0: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 1: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 2: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 3: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 4: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 5: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 6: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 7: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 8: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 9: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 10: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 11: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 12: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 13: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 14: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 15: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 16: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 17: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 0: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 1: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 2: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 3: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 4: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 5: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 6: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 7: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 8: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 9: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 10: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 11: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 12: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 13: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 14: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 15: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 16: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 17: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 0: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 1: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 2: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 3: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 4: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 5: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 6: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 7: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 8: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 9: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 10: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 11: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 12: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 13: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 14: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 15: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 16: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 17: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 0: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 1: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 2: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 3: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 4: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 5: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 6: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 7: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 8: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 9: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 10: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 11: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 12: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 13: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 14: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 15: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 16: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 17: 0

PS F:\>

 

[5hred]

Power on bei deiner HDD: über 24.000 Stunden, keine Reallocated Sektoren. Liest sich gut, oder?
Gibts noch andere aussagekrtäftige Werte über den Zustand einer gesunden HDD?

 

[Contor]

@5hred Is Ironie oder?
Die Platte hab ich gestern bekommen und heute eingebaut...........

Aber auch das finde ich interessant:

Index Estimated Time Temperature Celsius
18 2025-01-24 16:35 ? -
... ..(108 skipped). .. -
127 2025-01-29 03:46 ? -
0 2025-01-29 04:45 29 **********
1 2025-01-29 05:44 ? -
2 2025-01-29 06:43 23 ****
3 2025-01-29 07:42 ? -
4 2025-01-29 08:41 26 *******

ja gegen 8:30Uhr hab ich sie heut morgen das "erste" mal in betrieb genommen...

wo kommen die werte davor her? 108 skipped? 24.01 2025 ?

 

[5hred]

Eigentlich nicht, oder warum steht im Log: "Power on Hours: 24074"? Sind das nicht die Betriebsstunden?
Bei CrystalDiskInfo (wohl nur Smart-Werte oder?) werden die Betriebsstunden angezeigt und dann noch die "Power-On Hours" in hexadecimal-Form angezeigt, wobei dann der identische Wert wie bei Betriebsstunden rauskommt.

 

[Contor]

Na da ich sie heute erst eingebaut hab kann sie ja (zumindest bei mir) noch keine 24k Stunden auf dem Buckel haben.

Gebe aber zu das ich mit den smartmon werten nicht viel anfangen kann.
hab mich bisher immer auf crystal disk info verlassen.

 

[5hred]

Dann erschließt sich mir die Power on hours Angabe aus dem Log nicht...vielleicht kann hier einer mit mehr Ahnung was zu sagen... (oder du darfst dich leider Zweit-Besitzer dieser HDD nennen...)

Schmeiss mal CrystalDiskInfo an und achte auf die Stunden-Werte und vergleiche den Power-on hours Wert.
Sollte mit dem Wert der Betriebsstunden übereinstimmen...
Aber FARM-Werte sind wohl nach Lesen des Berichts hier aussagekräftiger als offensichtlich manipulierbare SMART-Werte.

Hexadezimal-Dezimal-Umrechner:
https://www.rapidtables.org/de/convert/number/hex-to-decimal.html

 

[Contor]

Ich hoffe auf so eine Aussage, denn sonst macht die Spindel on Time von 15h auch keinen Sinn irgendwie.

Gestern Abend als ich eine Bewertung der Festplatte abgegeben hab, stand bei der Festplatte auch noch bei MF drin das sie bestellt sei und am 30.01 erwartet wird.

Heute steht drin das sie nicht mehr lieferbar sei. Also irgend was scheint da echt nicht zu stimmen.

 

[ThirdLife]

Na da ich sie heute erst eingebaut hab kann sie ja (zumindest bei mir) noch keine 24k Stunden auf dem Buckel haben.

Was sagt CDI an Betriebsstunden ? Liegt doch auf der Hand. Ist hier eine Diskrepanz vorhanden, dann wurdest du abgezogen. Was ist daran so schwierig zu verstehen ?

 

[Contor]

CDI gibt die 15h an die smartmon in der spindel on time angibt, was ja auch passt (also seit meinem einbau heute)

2x eingeschaltet passt auch, einbau+start plus ein neustart nach nem windows update

schwierig ist für mich nur die smartmon werte RICHTIG zu deuten. Sorry, ich bin leider keine 20 Jahre mehr jung. Und von "FARM Logs" hab ich in der Tat auch erst hier gehört. Bisher waren mir halt nur die Smart Werte bekannt die ja auch von etlichen Tools überwacht werden können.

 

[ThirdLife]

CDI gibt die 15h an die smartmon in der spindel on time angibt, was ja auch passt (also seit meinem einbau heute)

Ja also, dann hast du die Antwort ja.

 

[5hred]

Dass die MF rausgenommen hat, erscheint mir super suspekt/fishy. Trete vom Kauf zurück oder lass sie dir durch eine andere ersetzen. E-Mail an MF mit dem Hinweis auf die Situation, diesen Bericht auf CB und dass dein Power-On-Hours Wert einfach nicht sein kann...

 

[Contor]

ich warte erstmal ab, da nur seagate diese "farm" werte anbietet. die platte verhällt sich bisher unauffällig. hab auch mal andere platten im homeserver gegen gecheckt inzwichen, 2 davon haben schon fast 70k (CDI und SM) stunden weg, und die farm werte zeigen nur knapp 24k (was definitiv nicht stimmen kann). sind aber halt auch keine "EXO". ich vermute so langsam aber sicher nen auslese fehler oder was auch immer, da immer nur die stunden nicht passen, aber alle andern werte schon. in panik verfall ich deswegen jetzt jedenfals nicht.

 

[Snoopy69]

Snoopy69

Spoiler: so?

PS F:\> smartctl -l farm sda
smartctl 7.4 2023-08-01 r5530 [x86_64-w64-mingw32-w11-b26100] (sf-7.4-1)
Copyright (C) 2002-23, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

Seagate Field Access Reliability Metrics log (FARM) (GP Log 0xa6)
FARM Log Page 0: Log Header
FARM Log Version: 3.7
Pages Supported: 6
Log Size: 98304
Page Size: 16384
Heads Supported: 24
Number of Copies: 0
Reason for Frame Capture: 0
FARM Log Page 1: Drive Information
Serial Number: ZL2KE0D6
World Wide Name: 0x5000c500dbde08c0
Device Interface: SATA
Device Capacity in Sectors: 31251759104
Physical Sector Size: 4096
Logical Sector Size: 512
Device Buffer Size: 268435456
Number of Heads: 18
Device Form Factor: 3.5 inches
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Firmware Rev: SN03
ATA Security State (ID Word 128): 0x01629
ATA Features Supported (ID Word 78): 0x016cc
ATA Features Enabled (ID Word 79): 0x0000000000000040
Power on Hours: 24074
Spindle Power on Hours: 15
Head Flight Hours: 14
Head Load Events: 21
Power Cycle Count: 22
Hardware Reset Count: 3
Spin-up Time: 0 ms
Time to ready of the last power cycle: 19177 ms
Time drive is held in staggered spin: 0 ms
Model Number: ST16000NM001G-2KK103
Drive Recording Type: CMR
Max Number of Available Sectors for Reassignment: 57754
Assembly Date (YYWW):
Depopulation Head Mask: 0
FARM Log Page 2: Workload Statistics
Total Number of Read Commands: 1999135991
Total Number of Write Commands: 876413124
Total Number of Random Read Commands: 294014800
Total Number of Random Write Commands: 108274855
Total Number Of Other Commands: 12886156
Logical Sectors Written: 194730054405
Logical Sectors Read: 1851759114067
Number of dither events during current power cycle: 219
Number of times dither was held off during random workloads: 231
Number of times dither was held off during sequential workloads: 875634
Number of Read commands from 0-3.125% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Read commands from 3.125-25% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Read commands from 25-75% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Read commands from 75-100% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 0-3.125% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 3.125-25% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 25-75% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 75-100% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
FARM Log Page 3: Error Statistics
Unrecoverable Read Errors: 0
Unrecoverable Write Errors: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors: 0
Number of Read Recovery Attempts: 0
Number of Mechanical Start Failures: 0
Number of Reallocated Candidate Sectors: 0
Number of ASR Events: 3
Number of Interface CRC Errors: 0
Spin Retry Count: 0
Spin Retry Count Normalized: 100
Spin Retry Count Worst: 100
Number of IOEDC Errors (Raw): 0
CTO Count Total: 0
CTO Count Over 5s: 0
CTO Count Over 7.5s: 0
Total Flash LED (Assert) Events: 0
Index of the last Flash LED: 0
Flash LED Event 0:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 0 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 0: 0
Flash LED Event 1:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 1 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 1: 0
Flash LED Event 2:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 2 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 2: 0
Flash LED Event 3:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 3 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 3: 0
Flash LED Event 4:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 4 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 4: 0
Flash LED Event 5:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 5 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 5: 0
Flash LED Event 6:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 6 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 6: 0
Flash LED Event 7:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 7 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 7: 0
Uncorrectable errors: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read errors due to ERC: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 0:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 1:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 2:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 3:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 4:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 5:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 6:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 7:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 8:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 9:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 10:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 11:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 12:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 13:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 14:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 15:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 16:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 17:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
FARM Log Page 4: Environment Statistics
Current Temperature (Celsius): 31
Highest Temperature: 39
Lowest Temperature: 23
Average Short Term Temperature: 0
Average Long Term Temperature: 0
Highest Average Short Term Temperature: 0
Lowest Average Short Term Temperature: 0
Highest Average Long Term Temperature: 0
Lowest Average Long Term Temperature: 0
Time In Over Temperature (minutes): 0
Time In Under Temperature (minutes): 0
Specified Max Operating Temperature: 60
Specified Min Operating Temperature: 5
Current Relative Humidity: 0
Current Motor Power: 4454
Current 12 volts: 12.117
Minimum 12 volts: 11.792
Maximum 12 volts: 12.197
Current 5 volts: 5.073
Minimum 5 volts: 5.018
Maximum 5 volts: 5.177
12V Power Average: 0.000
12V Power Minimum: 0.000
12V Power Maximum: 0.000
5V Power Average: 0.000
5V Power Minimum: 0.000
5V Power Maximum: 0.000
FARM Log Page 5: Reliability Statistics
Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Raw): 0x0000000001608bd0
Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Normalized): 74
Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Worst): 65
Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Raw): 0x00000000001ac391
Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Normalized): 62
Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Worst): 60
High Priority Unload Events: 0
Helium Pressure Threshold Tripped: 0
LBAs Corrected By Parity Sector: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 1: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 2: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 4: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 5: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 7: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 8: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 9: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 10: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 11: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 12: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 13: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 14: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 15: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 16: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 17: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 1: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 2: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 4: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 5: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 7: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 8: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 9: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 10: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 11: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 12: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 13: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 14: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 15: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 16: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 17: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 1: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 2: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 4: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 5: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 7: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 8: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 9: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 10: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 11: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 12: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 13: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 14: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 15: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 16: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 17: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 0: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 1: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 2: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 3: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 4: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 5: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 6: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 7: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 8: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 9: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 10: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 11: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 12: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 13: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 14: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 15: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 16: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 17: 0
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 0: 709
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 1: 721
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 2: 718
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 3: 654
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 4: 746
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 5: 763
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 6: 744
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 7: 737
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 8: 686
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 9: 739
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MR Head Resistance from Head 0: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 1: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 2: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 3: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 4: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 5: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 6: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 7: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 8: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 9: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 10: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 11: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 12: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 13: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 14: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 15: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 16: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 17: 0
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Second MR Head Resistance by Head 3: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 4: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 5: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 6: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 7: 0
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Second MR Head Resistance by Head 10: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 11: 0
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Second MR Head Resistance by Head 15: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 16: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 17: 0
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PS F:\>

Würde bedeuten, dass die HDD 2 Jahre und fast 9 Monate @ idle in Betrieb (angeschlossen war) und 15h die Spindel gedreht hat
Wohlmöglich eine Hot Spare HDD gewesen?

 

[Contor]

Dass die MF rausgenommen hat, erscheint mir super suspekt/fishy.

Nuja, wundern tut mich das nicht, wäre/ist immerhin ruf schädigend.
Mit MF hab ich schon geschrieben und sie verweisen ja auf die 2 jahre.
Also erstma Ruhe bewahren und schaun was da so um die Ecke kommt....

Ergänzung (Heute um 01:32)

@Snoopy69 die 15h hat sie heut bei mir absolviert seit einbau (homeserver=dauerbetrieb)
also dafür ist sie gedacht....
und fast 3 jahre als hot spare? ok, kann sein, möglich is alles, aber die Spindel hätte dann zeitweise dennoch gedreht... zumindest macht mein homeserver das ähnlich wie mein drucker: testen ob noch alles funktioniert....

 

[ThirdLife]

die platte verhällt sich bisher unauffällig.

Wie "auffällig" verhält sich denn eine Platte sonst so ?

in panik verfall ich deswegen jetzt jedenfals nicht.

Check doch mal die Seriennummer bei WD. Da siehst ja wie viel Garantie noch verbleibend ist. Wenn das deutlich weniger ist als du haben solltest seitens Händler, dann ist die Sache eigentlich mehr als klar.

Und gerade wenn du sie im Langzeit-Dauer-Betrieb nutzen willst wäre mir das nicht egal. Wenn du mehrere solcher Disks am Ende im System hast und evtl. auch mehrere Ausfälle bist du nämlich der Angeschissene.

 

[eastcoast_pete]

Selbst ein solcher Fall ist problematisch. Seagate schreibt nämlich in Datenblättern einiger seiner Festplatten Lagerbedingungen wie folgende vor:

Maximum storage periods are 180 days within original unopened Seagate shipping package or 60 days unpackaged within the defined non-operating limits (refer to environmental section in this manual). Storage can be extended to 1 year packaged or unpackaged under optimal environmental conditions (25°C, <40% relative humidity noncondensing, and non-corrosive environment).

Also wenn die mehr als 12 Monate herum lagen, selbst im besten Fall in ungeöffneter Verpackung und bei optimalen Umgebungsbedingungen, kann Seagate offenbar nicht mehr garantieren dass nicht z.B. mangels regelmäßiger Bewegung die Schmierung der Lager eintrocknet etc.

Unter anderem deshalb sollten diese HDDs dann auch klar als "OEM Ware" gekennzeichnet werden. Denn sie haben eben keine Garantie vom Hersteller mehr. Ob und wie viel schlechter diese HDDs nach 3 Jahren Lagerung im Regal dann wirklich sind, weiß ich allerdings auch nicht.