News Betrug mit Seagate-Festplatten: Händler verkaufen gebrauchte HDDs als Neuware

[unique28]

Sorry ich verstehe nicht, wie muss ich smartctl -l farm /dev/sd[X] eingeben, dass ich zu einem Ergebnis komme?

 

[darthbermel]

@unique28 Ist in erster Linie für Linux-Systeme. Für die erste Platte im System ist es /dev/sda, die zweite /dev/sdb usw.

 

[unique28]

@darthbermel Ah ok, ich in auf Windows unterwegs

Wie überprüfe ich das mit Windows?

 

[mho222]

Smartctrl für Windows in der Version 7.4 herunterladen.
Nach der Installation ein cmd Fenster (als Administrator!) öffnen und ins bin Verzeichnis gehen.
Dort smartctl -l farm /dev/sda (für die erste Platte) eingeben.
/dev/sda ist Linux, funktioniert aber mit smartctl auch so in Windows.

 

[unique28]

Dann wars doch richtig, nur erhalte ich folgende Error-Meldung: Read Device Identity failed: Input/output error

Warum auch immer.

 

[Hucken]

• eine gigantische CHIA-Farm: wenn die HDDs aus dem Baujahr 2021 sind, könnte mit den HDDs CHIA gemined worden sein. Nachdem der Kurs nur noch fällt, könnten so Unmengen der 14/18TB HDDs frei geworden sein. Gerade Chinesen sind sehr sorgfältig und können die gebrauchten HDDs problemlos neu verpacken und haben gute Netzwerke ("guanxi"), um mal eben 3000 gebrauchte HDDs aus einer Farm als Neu in den Umlauf zu bringen.

fände ich eine gute Theorie. aber dann müssten auch die read/write bzw. spindle power on enorm hoch sein. Chia gönnt der Platte eigentlich keine Idle Power On.

 

[Spawnkiller]

Wo genau ließt man die FARM Werte bei Seatools aus?

 

[Akhenabi]

Dann wars doch richtig, nur erhalte ich folgende Error-Meldung: Read Device Identity failed: Input/output error

Warum auch immer.

C:\Program Files\smartmontools\bin>smartctl -l farm /dev/sd[X]

Ersetze [X] (die eckigen Klammern löschen) durch a,b,c bis du die Werte für deine Seagate Platte bekommst, solltest du eine nicht Seagate Platte testen wollen wird das Programm meckern da FARM nur bei Seagte funktioniert.

Mal was anderes, meine Seagate Exos kam sauber eingeschweisst in der Schutzfolie an, ist jetzt 2 Wochen etwa im Betrieb, Power Cycle Count und Power on Hours stimmen soweit, aber 90 Hardware Reset Count machen mich stutzig, genauso wie das Assembly Date 4262 das auf 2041 hinweist, könnten die 2 Werte als Indiz für die Manipulation von FARM-Werten hindeuten? Die Platte ist als neues Produkt regulär bei Mindfactory gekauft wurden.

 

[fanatiXalpha]

Kann ich die Festplatten aus meinem NAS (Qnap) nach dem runterfahren rausnehmen, in eine Dockingstation und da dann via Windows Computer prüfen?
Oder geht das nicht?

 

[cupidstunt]

Debian hat nur die Version 7.3. Weiß einer wie man die auf 7.4 bekommt?

Edit: 7.4 ist leider nicht im stable-branch sondern nur testing. Müsste ich mir was überlegen.

7.4 ist seit August 2023 stable. Wo schaust du denn?

Ich bin gespannt, wer das zu verantworten hat. Ich kann mir kaum vorstellen, dass all diese beteiligten Händler konspirativ zusammengearbeitet haben. Das riecht mir eher nach Seagate, die dort Rückläufer-Produkte wieder in den Umlauf bringen. Ich bin mit Seagate eh durch. Ich betreibe 8x8 TB Iron Wolf Pro, 2 davon musste ich mittlerweile einschicken als Garantiefall. Das geht in der Regel flott (3-4 Tage, bis ein Ersatzmodell gesendet wird), aber der Hustle des Raid-Rebuild ist ätzend. Ich kaufe neue Platten für insgesamt weit über 1000€, damit ich ein paar Jahre Ruhe habe und vllt mal nach 5 Jahren eine auf Server-Dauerbetrieb ausgelegte Platte ausfällt, aber dass ich 2/8 innerhalb der Garantiezeit von 2 Jahren zurückschicken muss, das habe ich noch nie erlebt.

 

[mibbio]

Ich finde jetzt grundsätzlich das Vertriebsmodell von Temu nicht verkehrt,

Das Vertriebsmodell hat Temu aber auch nicht erfunden, sondern gibt es im Prinzip schon ewig. Nennt sich Dropshipping oder auf Deutsch "Streckengeschäft". Das Verkauft der Händler die Ware nicht aus seinem Lager, sondern direkt vom Lieferanten/Großhändler.

Bei deutschen Händlern macht das, meiner Erinnerung nach, bspow. Jacob Elektronik schon seit mindestens 10 Jahren.

 

[mho222]

Dann wars doch richtig, nur erhalte ich folgende Error-Meldung: Read Device Identity failed: Input/output error

Warum auch immer.

Was bringt denn smartctl --scan für eine Ausgabe?

 

[Land_Kind]

bei den 3 Shops wundert es mich nicht

Entschuldige, aber was genau hast Du gegen Galaxus?

Als Schweizer kaufe ich hier in der Schweiz sehr viel dort ein, respektive bei Digitec (gehören ja zusammen).
Dass so viele Shops betroffen sind deutet mMn darauf hin, dass irgendwo in der Zulieferkette diese Gebrauchtware eingeschleust wird, also schon VOR denjenigen, die wie Galaxus an die Endkunden verkaufen.

 

[cyberpirate]

Wie überprüfe ich das mit Windows?

Einfach dann mit der besseren UI diese Version:

https://gsmartcontrol.shaduri.dev/

 

[oem111]

Wenn was verführerisch ist, dann gibt es meist auch einen Haken.

Deshalb hab ich zuvor beim Händler erfragt ob es sich bei dem Artikel um Neuware handelt, was ja bestätigt wurde.

Da auch Fälle von anderen bekannten Händlern bekannt sind, teile ich die Auffassung einiger, dass hier die Zwischenhändler das schwarze Schaf sind.


Warum ich denke betroffen zu sein, ich nenne es mal Bauchgefühl.

Der Händler tauchte auch bei Heise auf.
Der Kauf ist auch erst knapp 1,5 Monate her.
Die Modellnummer ist unter den auffälligen HDDs.

Also genug Anhaltspunkte, wie gesagt sobald ich Zeit für die Prüfung habe, werde ich das Ergebnis entsprechend an meine bisherigen Posts anhängen.

Ich würde mich freuen, wenn ich mich irre.

 

[Lenneth]

Mich hat es anscheinend auch erwischt. Ohne zufällig auf diesen Thread zu stoßen hätte ich es auch nicht gemerkt. Wer checkt als Normaluser neue HDDs schon genauer, außer das Ding gleich mal brutal zu testen (die übliche Kurve mit höherer Ausfallwahrscheinlichkeit zu Beginn oder erst ganz spät) oder einfach nur die SMART-Werte zu checken, um Ausfälle zu Beginn gleich zu bemerken?

Vor gut einer Woche kamen zwei 14 TB Seagate X X16 ST14000NM001G an, über Mindfactory bestellt. Neuware, nichts mit refurb oder recertified.

Was mich auch stutzig macht: Sollten schon die Alarmglocken läuten, wenn bei Prüfung der Herstellergarantie auf der Seagate-Seite bei angeblicher Neuware diese schon im Dezember 2025 ausläuft? Gilt für BEIDE Platten.

(Bevor Fragen kommen: JA ich machee Backups, auf einer ext. HDD und zu einer Storage Box einmal die Woche)

Hier mal meine SMART- und FARM-Werte:

Spoiler: SMART HDD 1

Spoiler: FARM HDD 1

C:\Windows\system32>smartctl -l farm /dev/sda
smartctl 7.4 2023-08-01 r5530 [x86_64-w64-mingw32-w10-22H2] (sf-7.4-1)
Copyright (C) 2002-23, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

Seagate Field Access Reliability Metrics log (FARM) (GP Log 0xa6)
FARM Log Page 0: Log Header
FARM Log Version: 3.7
Pages Supported: 6
Log Size: 98304
Page Size: 16384
Heads Supported: 24
Number of Copies: 0
Reason for Frame Capture: 0
FARM Log Page 1: Drive Information
Serial Number: ********
World Wide Name: 0x5000c500c69cd1d0
Device Interface: SATA
Device Capacity in Sectors: 27344764928
Physical Sector Size: 4096
Logical Sector Size: 512
Device Buffer Size: 268435456
Number of Heads: 16
Device Form Factor: 3.5 inches
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Firmware Rev: SN03
ATA Security State (ID Word 128): 0x01629
ATA Features Supported (ID Word 78): 0x016cc
ATA Features Enabled (ID Word 79): 0x0000000000000040
Power on Hours: 36370
Spindle Power on Hours: 125
Head Flight Hours: 125
Head Load Events: 117
Power Cycle Count: 129
Hardware Reset Count: 104
Spin-up Time: 10 ms
Time to ready of the last power cycle: 22926 ms
Time drive is held in staggered spin: 0 ms
Model Number: ST14000NM001G-2KJ103
Drive Recording Type: CMR
Max Number of Available Sectors for Reassignment: 57754
Assembly Date (YYWW):
Depopulation Head Mask: 0
FARM Log Page 2: Workload Statistics
Total Number of Read Commands: 1552716407
Total Number of Write Commands: 140640836
Total Number of Random Read Commands: 23274909
Total Number of Random Write Commands: 41748008
Total Number Of Other Commands: 69859633
Logical Sectors Written: 81896627599
Logical Sectors Read: 769787307021
Number of dither events during current power cycle: 7
Number of times dither was held off during random workloads: 10
Number of times dither was held off during sequential workloads: 243
Number of Read commands from 0-3.125% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Read commands from 3.125-25% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Read commands from 25-75% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Read commands from 75-100% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 0-3.125% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 3.125-25% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 25-75% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 75-100% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
FARM Log Page 3: Error Statistics
Unrecoverable Read Errors: 0
Unrecoverable Write Errors: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors: 0
Number of Read Recovery Attempts: 0
Number of Mechanical Start Failures: 0
Number of Reallocated Candidate Sectors: 0
Number of ASR Events: 4
Number of Interface CRC Errors: 0
Spin Retry Count: 0
Spin Retry Count Normalized: 100
Spin Retry Count Worst: 100
Number of IOEDC Errors (Raw): 0
CTO Count Total: 0
CTO Count Over 5s: 0
CTO Count Over 7.5s: 0
Total Flash LED (Assert) Events: 0
Index of the last Flash LED: 0
Flash LED Event 0:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 0 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 0: 0
Flash LED Event 1:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 1 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 1: 0
Flash LED Event 2:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 2 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 2: 0
Flash LED Event 3:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 3 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 3: 0
Flash LED Event 4:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 4 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 4: 0
Flash LED Event 5:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 5 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 5: 0
Flash LED Event 6:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 6 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 6: 0
Flash LED Event 7:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 7 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 7: 0
Uncorrectable errors: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read errors due to ERC: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 0:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 1:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 2:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 3:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 4:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 5:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 6:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 7:
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Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 8:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 9:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 10:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 11:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 12:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 13:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 14:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 15:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
FARM Log Page 4: Environment Statistics
Current Temperature (Celsius): 29
Highest Temperature: 37
Lowest Temperature: 22
Average Short Term Temperature: 32
Average Long Term Temperature: 0
Highest Average Short Term Temperature: 34
Lowest Average Short Term Temperature: 32
Highest Average Long Term Temperature: 0
Lowest Average Long Term Temperature: 0
Time In Over Temperature (minutes): 0
Time In Under Temperature (minutes): 0
Specified Max Operating Temperature: 60
Specified Min Operating Temperature: 5
Current Relative Humidity: 0
Current Motor Power: 3720
Current 12 volts: 12.198
Minimum 12 volts: 11.828
Maximum 12 volts: 12.336
Current 5 volts: 5.006
Minimum 5 volts: 4.853
Maximum 5 volts: 5.307
12V Power Average: 0.000
12V Power Minimum: 0.000
12V Power Maximum: 0.000
5V Power Average: 0.000
5V Power Minimum: 0.000
5V Power Maximum: 0.000
FARM Log Page 5: Reliability Statistics
Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Raw): 0x0000000000fd7801
Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Normalized): 72
Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Worst): 64
Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Raw): 0x0000000000675a49
Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Normalized): 68
Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Worst): 60
High Priority Unload Events: 1
Helium Pressure Threshold Tripped: 0
LBAs Corrected By Parity Sector: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 1: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 2: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 4: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 5: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 7: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 8: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 9: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 10: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 11: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 12: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 13: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 14: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 15: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 1: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 2: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 4: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 5: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 7: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 8: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 9: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 10: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 11: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 12: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 13: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 14: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 15: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 1: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 2: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 4: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 5: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 7: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 8: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 9: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 10: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 11: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 12: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 13: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 14: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 15: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 0: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 1: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 2: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 3: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 4: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 5: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 6: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 7: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 8: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 9: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 10: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 11: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 12: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 13: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 14: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 15: 0
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 0: 1892
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 1: 1907
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 2: 1799
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 3: 1747
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 4: 1709
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 5: 1661
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 6: 1734
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 7: 1893
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 8: 1828
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 9: 1786
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 10: 1884
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 11: 1656
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 12: 1844
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 13: 1912
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 14: 1764
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 15: 1816
MR Head Resistance from Head 0: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 1: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 2: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 3: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 4: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 5: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 6: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 7: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 8: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 9: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 10: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 11: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 12: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 13: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 14: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 15: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 0: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 1: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 2: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 3: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 4: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 5: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 6: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 7: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 8: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 9: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 10: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 11: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 12: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 13: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 14: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 15: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 0: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 1: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 2: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 3: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 4: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 5: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 6: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 7: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 8: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 9: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 10: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 11: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 12: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 13: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 14: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 15: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 0: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 1: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 2: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 3: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 4: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 5: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 6: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 7: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 8: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 9: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 10: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 11: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 12: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 13: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 14: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 15: 0

Spoiler: SMART HDD 2

Spoiler: FARM HDD 2

C:\Windows\system32>smartctl -l farm /dev/sda
smartctl 7.4 2023-08-01 r5530 [x86_64-w64-mingw32-w10-22H2] (sf-7.4-1)
Copyright (C) 2002-23, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

Seagate Field Access Reliability Metrics log (FARM) (GP Log 0xa6)
FARM Log Page 0: Log Header
FARM Log Version: 3.7
Pages Supported: 6
Log Size: 98304
Page Size: 16384
Heads Supported: 24
Number of Copies: 0
Reason for Frame Capture: 0
FARM Log Page 1: Drive Information
Serial Number: ********
World Wide Name: 0x5000c500c649fc53
Device Interface: SATA
Device Capacity in Sectors: 27344764928
Physical Sector Size: 4096
Logical Sector Size: 512
Device Buffer Size: 268435456
Number of Heads: 16
Device Form Factor: 3.5 inches
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Firmware Rev: SN03
ATA Security State (ID Word 128): 0x01629
ATA Features Supported (ID Word 78): 0x016cc
ATA Features Enabled (ID Word 79): 0x0000000000000040
Power on Hours: 36370
Spindle Power on Hours: 125
Head Flight Hours: 125
Head Load Events: 117
Power Cycle Count: 127
Hardware Reset Count: 91
Spin-up Time: 10 ms
Time to ready of the last power cycle: 20752 ms
Time drive is held in staggered spin: 0 ms
Model Number: ST14000NM001G-2KJ103
Drive Recording Type: CMR
Max Number of Available Sectors for Reassignment: 57754
Assembly Date (YYWW):
Depopulation Head Mask: 0
FARM Log Page 2: Workload Statistics
Total Number of Read Commands: 1530609479
Total Number of Write Commands: 114694871
Total Number of Random Read Commands: 19902945
Total Number of Random Write Commands: 23948055
Total Number Of Other Commands: 73010864
Logical Sectors Written: 74119277803
Logical Sectors Read: 755284555119
Number of dither events during current power cycle: 8
Number of times dither was held off during random workloads: 11
Number of times dither was held off during sequential workloads: 238
Number of Read commands from 0-3.125% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Read commands from 3.125-25% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Read commands from 25-75% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Read commands from 75-100% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 0-3.125% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 3.125-25% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 25-75% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
Number of Write commands from 75-100% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
FARM Log Page 3: Error Statistics
Unrecoverable Read Errors: 0
Unrecoverable Write Errors: 0
Number of Reallocated Sectors: 0
Number of Read Recovery Attempts: 0
Number of Mechanical Start Failures: 0
Number of Reallocated Candidate Sectors: 0
Number of ASR Events: 4
Number of Interface CRC Errors: 0
Spin Retry Count: 0
Spin Retry Count Normalized: 100
Spin Retry Count Worst: 100
Number of IOEDC Errors (Raw): 0
CTO Count Total: 0
CTO Count Over 5s: 0
CTO Count Over 7.5s: 0
Total Flash LED (Assert) Events: 0
Index of the last Flash LED: 0
Flash LED Event 0:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 0 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 0: 0
Flash LED Event 1:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 1 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 1: 0
Flash LED Event 2:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 2 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 2: 0
Flash LED Event 3:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 3 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 3: 0
Flash LED Event 4:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 4 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 4: 0
Flash LED Event 5:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 5 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 5: 0
Flash LED Event 6:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 6 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 6: 0
Flash LED Event 7:
Event Information: 0x0000000000000000
Timestamp of Event 7 (hours): 0
Power Cycle Event 7: 0
Uncorrectable errors: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read errors due to ERC: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 0:
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Repeating: 0
Cumulative Lifetime Unrecoverable Read Unique: 0
Cum Lifetime Unrecoverable by head 1:
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FARM Log Page 4: Environment Statistics
Current Temperature (Celsius): 27
Highest Temperature: 36
Lowest Temperature: 22
Average Short Term Temperature: 32
Average Long Term Temperature: 0
Highest Average Short Term Temperature: 33
Lowest Average Short Term Temperature: 32
Highest Average Long Term Temperature: 0
Lowest Average Long Term Temperature: 0
Time In Over Temperature (minutes): 0
Time In Under Temperature (minutes): 0
Specified Max Operating Temperature: 60
Specified Min Operating Temperature: 5
Current Relative Humidity: 0
Current Motor Power: 3817
Current 12 volts: 12.196
Minimum 12 volts: 11.553
Maximum 12 volts: 12.345
Current 5 volts: 4.996
Minimum 5 volts: 4.907
Maximum 5 volts: 5.308
12V Power Average: 0.000
12V Power Minimum: 0.000
12V Power Maximum: 0.000
5V Power Average: 0.000
5V Power Minimum: 0.000
5V Power Maximum: 0.000
FARM Log Page 5: Reliability Statistics
Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Raw): 0x00000000037cfc0f
Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Normalized): 78
Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Worst): 64
Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Raw): 0x0000000000233ce4
Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Normalized): 64
Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Worst): 60
High Priority Unload Events: 1
Helium Pressure Threshold Tripped: 0
LBAs Corrected By Parity Sector: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 1: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 2: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 4: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 5: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 7: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 8: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 9: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 10: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 11: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 12: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 13: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 14: 0
DVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 15: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 1: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 2: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 4: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 5: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 7: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 8: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 9: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 10: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 11: 0
RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 12: 0
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RVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 15: 0
FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 0: 0
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FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 3: 0
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FVGA Skip Write Detect by Head 6: 0
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Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 3: 0
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Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 6: 0
Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 7: 0
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Skip Write Detect Threshold Exceeded by Head 11: 0
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Write Power On (hrs) by Head 1: 1004
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 2: 953
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 3: 995
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 4: 923
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 5: 968
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 6: 801
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 7: 887
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Write Power On (hrs) by Head 9: 869
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 10: 922
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 11: 883
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 12: 869
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 13: 908
Write Power On (hrs) by Head 14: 913
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MR Head Resistance from Head 0: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 1: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 2: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 3: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 4: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 5: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 6: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 7: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 8: 0
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MR Head Resistance from Head 10: 0
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MR Head Resistance from Head 12: 0
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MR Head Resistance from Head 14: 0
MR Head Resistance from Head 15: 0
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Second MR Head Resistance by Head 2: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 3: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 4: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 5: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 6: 0
Second MR Head Resistance by Head 7: 0
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Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 2: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 3: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 4: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 5: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 6: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 7: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 8: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 9: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 10: 0
Number of Reallocation Candidate Sectors by Head 11: 0
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[NephiliasBlack]

Hallo zusammen,

Bein auch betroffen, habe Heute meine Festplatte bekommen, das war ein Ersatz da die Erste die sie mir geschickt haben erst gar nicht lief.
Gleich getestet, über 22000 Stunden !
Jetzt bin ich mal gespammt wie und ob die Rückabwicklung bei MF funktioniert.

PS: Ich brauche aber trotzdem einen Ersatz ( 18 TB oder grösser) hat jemand ne Empfehlung zum bedenkenlosen Kauf ?

 

[LotusXXL]

Das ist definitiv Betrug. Deshalb nach Feststellen Strafanzeige gegen den Verkäufer stellen.
Verkäufer sind in den Fällen die Online-Shops, mit denen man einen Kaufvertrag abgeschlossen hat.

 

[Bigeagle]

Weil die Platten DREI (!!!) Jahre im idle liefen, bevor sie mir als NEU verkauft wurden?

Sorry, normalerweise tangieren mich solche Kommentare nicht so, aber in dieser Situation kann ich echt nicht gelassen bleiben..

Ich bin verwirrt. Ja, dass die Platten gebraucht sind sieht man, die smart werte sind zurückgesetzt -> klare täuschungsabsicht, sauerei, ok.
Ich sehe bei den geposteten FARM werten aber eben keine zurückgesetzten werte bei denen nur die 'power on hours' ausgelassen wurden. Da ist garnichts gelöscht oder zurückgesetzt vermute ich, sondern die platte war einfach nur sehr viel idle und im dauerbetrieb. Kein Mysterium.

Was an der Feststellung dass da nicht nur die 'power on hours' vergessen wurden so aufregt ist mir nicht klar. Die Werte die man sieht sind sogar eher positiv (im sinne von glück im unglück) denn 24/7 primär idle Betrieb ist noch eine der schonensten arten der alterung. Hätte die bei der Betriebszeit schon tausende power cycles und hunderttausende head load events wäre das viel unschöner.
Wenn du also auf dieser Platte aus irgendeinem grund sitzen bleibst, bleibt immerhin noch der trost dass die bislang wahrscheinlich sehr schonend gelaufen ist, aber definitiv kein frühausfall mehr zu erwarten ist. Wenn die so ihre 3 jahre gelaufen ist läuft sie vermutlich locker noch 7+ Jahre in dem Nutzungsprofil. Persönlicher Erfahrungswert
Definitiv besser als eine ehemalige Büro-desktopplatte die jeden Tag mindestens einmal ein- und wieder ausgeschaltet wurde, oder eventuell sogar besser als wenn sie die 3 Jahre in einem Regal gelegen hätte. Ich weiß nicht ob es noch relevant ist gelegentlich mal die Lager zu bewegen und Schmiermittel zu verteilen.

 

[AlphaKaninchen]

PS: Ich brauche aber trotzdem einen Ersatz ( 18 TB oder grösser) hat jemand ne Empfehlung zum bedenkenlosen Kauf ?

Ernsthaft... Ich würde eine der Offiziell von Seagate refurbishten kaufen, Backup braucht man eh, also warum nicht die Ersparnis mitnehmen, bei neuen bekommt man aktuell scheinbar ja auch nix anderes.

Oder WD in deren eigenen Online Shop, die werden ja nicht selbst so etwas abziehen. Kostet aber mehr. Seagate scheint keinen eigenen Store zu haben