News Half-Life 2: Valve und Vivendi abgemahnt

[coolsman]

ok...ich wollte damit auch nur sagen, dass es sehrwohl auch ein steamproblem sein kann.

 

[coolsman]

@ikeastuhlbjoern

Damit meine ich, dass der Aufdruck "Sonstiges: Internetverbindung" auch so gemeint sein kann, dass selbige lediglich für CS:S benötigt wird, da in keinem Wort erwähnt wird, dass es aktiviert werden muss.(oder irre ich? gerade nicht ganz sicher) Meiner Meinung nach doch recht Mehrdeutig.
Das mit dem Vater war auch nur ein Beispiel, um mal ein szenario zu zeigen, dass auch "nicht" Fachleute ein Spiel kaufen. Es laufen auch Leute rum, die sich nicht mit Computern auskennen. Und wenn der sowas liest, kommt der gar nicht auf die Idee zu fragen, weil der evtl damit gar nicht rechnet. Ausserdem wo bekammt man heute noch Beratung??? Im Media Markt? (LOL) Saturn? (LOL) Mach es doch nicht so schwer, Du weisst doch genau was ich meine.

 

[Nero Atreides]

nur mal so am rande:

man könnte sogar ein eu-weites vertriebsverbot erwirken - wenn sich mal jemand wegen eines spiels zum eugh begeben würde!

denn: die weiterveräusesrung ist hier deutlich eingeschränkt bzw. nicht möglich! daher verstößt das Produkt HL2 gegen Europarecht!

So long,

Nero.

 

[der_garTen]

Also ich find das gut was VALVE mit HL² gemacht hat.... Es gibt schon genügend Spiele, die man cracken kann. Mit dieser Vorgehensweise können halt keine Spiele mehr illegal vervielfälltigt werden....

der_garTen

 

[ikeastuhlbjoern]

@Coolsman: Ja sicher gibts immer irgendwo auf der Welt Leute die etwas kaufen, von dem Sie keine Ahnung haben und sich danach beschweren, nur weil Sie sich nicht darüber informiert haben... Und das der Aufdruck sich auch nur auf CS:S beziehen könnte kannn dem Käufer doch schnulle sein, es steht ja nicht umsonst bei "System Requirements" und nicht bei eventl. benötigter Hard- oder Software oder bei empfohlenem Zubehör, nein es steht bei "Systemvoraussetzungen". Also ganz klar wird eine Internetverbindung VORAUSGESETZT, wie die zustande kommt kann Valve doch latte sein (ob ISDN, DSL, Satellit, Modem, irgendwelche Kabel oder auch wireless), es ist Pflicht für den jenigen der es spielen will und wers nicht hat der käuft es nicht. Sehe da nun keine Probleme für irgendwelche Leute drinne es nicht zuverstehen wollen... Oder sind wir schon auf amerikanischem Niveau *gg*

Bitte alles nicht immer so ernst sehen und nehmen ;-)

 

[der_garTen]

Bin ganz deiner Meinung, ikeastuhlbjoern. Haste recht...Valve schreibt man benötigt eine Internetverbindung... Mehr brauchen die nicht anzugeben... =)

der_garTen

 

[FX-55+]

Von mir aus kann Valve sich Half-Life 2, sonst wo hinstecken. Ich hätte es mir gekauft, aber der ganze Misst mit Steam, geht mir auf den Sa.. Ich bin doch nicht Hanswurst und unterstütze das auch noch. Es gibt genügend andere >und bessere< Ego-Shooter auf dem Markt.

 

[der_garTen]

Naja...ich habs mir gehoilt...und wenn man DSL hat dann hat man auch keine Probleme..... dann lässte den PC halt mal für ne stunde laufen und veddich
=)

P.S.: DIE GRAFIK ISS EINFACH NUR GEIL UND NICHT ZU ÜBERTREFFEN!!!!!!!!

 

[guillome]

Also ich find das gut was VALVE mit HL² gemacht hat.... Es gibt schon genügend Spiele, die man cracken kann. Mit dieser Vorgehensweise können halt keine Spiele mehr illegal vervielfälltigt werden....

schon wieder einer der nur unwissenheit postet, ohne das er sich vorher informiert hat oder zumindest diesen thread gelesen hat...

 

[der_garTen]

guillome, was meinse???

 

[TheCounter]

Ich denke, dass hier auf keinen Fall Valve oder Steam eine Schuld hat.

Die Schuld liegt ganz klar bei den Spacken, die jahrelang sich schön die neuesten Spiele gebrannt haben. Und genau aus diesem Grund gibt es Netzwerke wie Steam, denn welcher Mensch will schon für jahrelange Arbeit nicht den Lohn bekommen.

Meiner Meinung nach sollte man, bevor man hier rum meckert, in diversen P2P Foren rumstänkern.

Langsam komme ich mir vor wie ein Depp, der ewig immer schön die Spiele LEGAL gekauft hat, welche er spielen will. Und genau so einer wie ich, scheint mir mittlerweile eine Minderheit zu sein.

Womöglich sind es noch die Leute, die sich HL1 gebrannt und gecrackt haben, sich HL2 aber legal gekauft haben, die hier nun meckern... Irgendwann geht eben der Schuss nach hinten los.

Onlineaktivierung: Von mir aus bei jedem und jeder Software!

Das Steam keine Raubkopien verhindert ist dir bekannt? Dir ist auch bekannt das selbst der Multiplayer ohne Steam geht? Du weist das Half-Life 2 bereits am Tag der Veröffentlichung im Internet aufgetaucht ist?

Das einzige was Steam verhindert hat war ein vorzeitiger Release des Spieles im Internet. Ich hab den fehler gemacht und mir das Spiel für 39EUR gekauft um dann erstmal stundenlang zu warten bevor ich es spielen konnte (Wegen der aktivierung).

Ich werde mir keine Produkte von Valve mehr kaufen, die sind imo noch schlimmer als Microsoft (Wobei da ja ein Ex-Microsoft Mitarbeiter arbeitet ). Auf weitere Geld-Zahlungen an PC-Magazine für bessere Wertungen kann ich in Zukunft getrost verzichten, und auf die ganzen bewussten Lügen auch. Gibt genug andere gute und vor allem bessere Spiele.

Ich frag mich echt wieso Valve so Geldgeil geworden is, früher waren se doch auch OK

 

[coolsman]

@ikeastuhlbjoen (cooler Nick irgendwie )

Ja, leider muss ich sagen, dass wir in Deutschland immer mehr auf Amerkinaisches Niveau kommen. Findest Du nicht?
Für mich (persönlich) ist das sicherlich auch klar (und auch nicht schlimm) mit der Internetverbindung. Aber ich denke man kann nicht von allen verlangen, erstmal tausend Foren zu besuchen und sich Schlau zu machen, wie ein Aufdruck oder etwas gemeint ist. Fakt ist, dass es nicht klar und eindeutig (und das ist sicherlich der Punkt, die Eindeutigkeit) ist. Es wird nicht Eindeutig auf eine Aktivierung oder gleiches hingewiesen. Und das man diesen Aufdruck missverstehen kann, dass wollte ich lediglich zeigen. (Wohlgemerkt kann) Dass es für Euch, die Täglich hier schauen oder sonstwo, klar ist, ist mir sehrwohl klar. Aber eben nicht jedem. Das ist doch der Punkt um den es geht. Und das nennt sich dann Irreführend.

 

[- @lien -]

hey jungs und Mädels,

wenn mich etwas stört dann mache ich es einfach nicht, also habe ich HL² NICHT gekauft und spiele es auch nicht "illegal".
Ich denke das ein Hersteller nur etwas ändert wenn er mit seiner Politik kein GELD verdient, da aber anscheinend trotzdem HL² so oft verkauft wurde, wird dieses (Bei)Spiel andere Spielehersteller dazu animieren das gleiche zu tun.

Das -@lien -

 

[hesse]

was ist daran irrenführend, wenn als SYSTEMANFORDERUNG "Internetzugang" steht. Für was der benötigt wird steht nicht da - aber er wird benötigt - Punkt -
Wenn nichts da stehen würde, dann könnte man sich aufregen.... aber so

Dass man das Spiel nicht weiter veräußern kann liegt nur an Steam - aber die werden sich noch mit Sicherheit beugen müssen, selbst wenn es dann so ist, dass der Verkäufer eine Email bekommt, wo er dann bestätigen muss, dass er das Spiel an XY verkauft hat...

Hoffen wir im letzten Fall das Beste

 

[pcs-anno.de]

Bei ner Englisch sprachigen Version (Welche nicht in der UK vertrieben darf), steht vorne fett drauf dass man zum Installieren eine Internetverbindung braucht!!!
Als ich das sah, wurde ich echt sauer. Entweder war das Absicht, oder auf druck einiger Leute, haben die das hinzugefügt, wobei ich sagen muss, dass diese DVD-Einleger 3 Wochen später gedruckt wurden und somit auch später irgendwo in den handel kamen, als z.B. die deutschen.

 

[Klabautermann]

@ Sequoia
hab ich doch oben aufgezählt was ich alles von denen gekauft habe, cs sogar doppelt. auch von ganz anderen herstellern. die spiele die ich gesaugt habe hab ich eigentlich immer nur wie ne demo ausprobiert und dann gelöscht.

@dennis
was du hier so fürn mist von dir gibst ist echt nicht zu fassen. mehr sag ich dazu garnicht.

achso: ich verdien mein geld neben dem studium mit einem computer-hilfs-service, komm mir also nicht mit sprüchen wie zu dumm zum installieren oder so man man man
alles pauschalisieren und andere runtermachen...geile einstellung

 

[MountWalker]

Es gibt keinen Registrierungszwang, wie oft sollen wir das noch wiederholen. Du musst keine Daten angeben außer deinem Key wenn du das Spiel spielen willst. Ist das jetzt mal angekommen

Es gibt eine Registrierung für Steam, um einen Steam-Account zu erlangen musst du dich bei Steam registrieren, ohne einen registrierten Steam-Account ist eine Aktivierung jeglicher Produkte von Valve Software unmöglich. Natürlich kann man einfach Steam anlügen und eine E-Mail-Addresse angeben deren Daten falsch sind, ich möchte jetzt aber nicht darüber diskutieren ob man den Bürger zum Lügen antreiben sollte.

Hier mal das Steam-Subscriber-Agreement, das nicht einfach nur auf Englisch beschränkt ist, sondern darüberhibnaus auch andere Kuriosiotäten enthält:

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Gleich gehsts weiter...

 

[MountWalker]

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VALVE DOES NOT GUARANTEE CONTINOUS, ERROR-FREE, VIRUS-FREE OR SECURE OPERATION AND ACCESS TO STEAM, THE STEAM SOFTWARE, YOUR ACCOUNT AND YOUR SUBSCRIPTIONS(S). YOU ASSUME THE ENTIRE RISK WITH RESPECT TO THE PERFORMANCE AND RESULTS OF THE STEAM SOFTWARE IN CONNECTION WITH YOUR HARDWARE.

C. LIMITATION OF LIABILITY.

NEITHER VALVE, ITS LICENSORS, NOR THEIR AFFILIATES SHALL BE LIABLE IN ANY WAY FOR LOSS OR DAMAGE OF ANY KIND RESULTING FROM THE USE OR INABILITY TO USE STEAM, YOUR ACCOUNT, YOUR SUBSCRIPTIONS AND THE STEAM SOFTWARE INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, LOSS OF GOODWILL, WORK STOPPAGE, COMPUTER FAILURE OR MALFUNCTION, OR ANY AND ALL OTHER COMMERCIAL DAMAGES OR LOSSES. IN NO EVENT WILL VALVE BE LIABLE FOR ANY INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, SPECIAL, PUNITIVE, EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, OR ANY OTHER DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF OR IN ANY WAY CONNECTED WITH STEAM, STEAM SOFTWARE, MERCHANDISE THAT YOU ACQUIRE VIA STEAM, ANY INFORMATION AVAILABLE IN CONNECTION THEREWITH, OR THE DELAY OR INABILITY TO USE MERCHANDISE OR ANY INFORMATION, EVEN IN THE EVENT OF FAULT, TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE), STRICT LIABILITY, BREACH OF CONTRACT, OR BREACH OF VALVE’S WARRANTY AND EVEN IF VALVE HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES. THESE LIMITATIONS AND EXCLUSIONS REGARDING DAMAGES APPLY EVEN IF ANY REMEDY FAILS.


10. EXCLUSIVE REMEDIES
A. EXCLUSIVE REMEDY -- STEAM AND STEAM SOFTWARE.

YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH VALVE WITH REGARD TO STEAM OR THE STEAM SOFTWARE IS TO DISCONTINUE USE OF STEAM AND CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT. BECAUSE SOME STATES OR JURISDICTIONS DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR THE LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL DAMAGES, IN SUCH STATES OR JURISDICTIONS, VALVE, ITS LICENSORS, AND THEIR AFFILIATES LIABILITY SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE FULL EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW.

B. EXCLUSIVE REMEDY--MERCHANDISE.

YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT WITH REGARD TO ANY MERCHANDISE YOU PURCHASE VIA STEAM YOUR EXCLUSIVE REMEDY, IN ADDITION TO THE REMEDIES EXPRESSLY SET FORTH IN SECTION 3(C), VALVE MAY INCLUDE IN ITS OPTION THE RIGHT TO PAY TO YOU THE AMOUNT OF DIRECT DAMAGES ACTUALLY INCURRED BY YOU IN REASONABLE RELIANCE ON SUCH MERCHANDISE, AS LONG AS THAT AMOUNT DOES NOT EXCEED THE AMOUNT YOU PAID VALVE FOR THE MERCHANDISE GIVING RISE TO THOSE DAMAGES.


11. INDEMNIFICATION
You agree to defend, indemnify and hold harmless Valve, its licensors and their affiliates from all liabilities, claims and expenses, including attorneys' fees, that arise from or in connection with breach of this Agreement, use of Steam or any Subscription, or any User Generated Information or Third Party Content, including, but not limited to, the creation, distribution, promotion and use of any Mods, by you or any person(s) using your Account. Valve reserves the right, at its own expense, to assume the exclusive defense and control of any matter otherwise subject to indemnification by you. In that event, you shall have no further obligation to provide indemnification to Valve in that matter. This Section regarding Indemnification shall survive termination of this Agreement.

12. AMENDMENTS TO THIS AGREEMENT
Valve may amend this Agreement at any time in its sole discretion. As a Subscriber, you agree that Valve may amend the terms of this Agreement. If Valve amends the Agreement, such amendment shall be effective thirty (30) days after posting the new amended Agreement on Steam. You agree to review the Agreement periodically to become aware of such amendments. You can view the Agreement at any time at http://www.steampowered.com. Your failure to cancel your Account thirty (30) days after an amended Agreement is posted on Steam will mean that you accept all such amendments. If you don't agree to the amendments, or to any of the terms in this Agreement, your only remedy is to cancel your Account or a particular Subscription.

13. TERM AND TERMINATION
Either you or Valve has the right to terminate or cancel your Account or a particular Subscription at any time. You understand and agree that the cancellation of your Account or a particular Subscription is your sole right and remedy with respect to any dispute with Valve.

A. Term.

The term of this Agreement (the "Term") will be effective as of the date that you click "I Agree" below, and will continue in effect until otherwise terminated in accordance with this Agreement.

B. Termination by You.

Information on how to cancel your Account or a particular Subscription can be found at http://www.steampowered.com. Valve reserves the right to collect fees, surcharges or costs incurred prior to the cancellation of your Account or a particular Subscription. In addition, you are responsible for any charges incurred to third-party vendors or content providers before your cancellation. In the event that your Account or a particular subscription is terminated or canceled by you, no refund, including any Subscription fees, will be granted. In the event that your Account or a particular Subscription is terminated or cancelled by Valve for a violation of this Agreement or improper or illegal activity, no refund, including any Subscription fees, will be granted.

C. Termination by Valve.

1. In the case of a recurring payment Subscription (e.g., a monthly subscription), in the event that Valve terminates or cancels your Account or a particular Subscription for convenience, Valve may, but is not obligated to, provide a prorated refund of any prepaid Subscription fees paid to Valve.
2. In the case of a one-time purchase of a product license (e.g., purchase of a single game) from Valve, Valve may choose to terminate or cancel your Subscription in its entirety or may terminate or cancel only a portion of the Subscription (e.g., access to the software via Steam) and Valve may, but is not obligated to, provide access (for a limited period of time) to the download of a stand-alone version of the software and content associated with such one-time purchase.
3. In the case of a free Subscription, Valve may choose to terminate or amend the terms of the Subscription as provided in the "Amendments to this Agreement" section above.

D. Survival of Terms.

Sections 2(C), 2(D), 7, 9, 10, 11, 13(D), and 14 will survive any expiration or termination of this Agreement.


14. MISCELLANEOUS
You agree that this Agreement shall be deemed to have been made and executed in the State of Washington, and any dispute arising hereunder shall be resolved in accordance with the law of Washington. You agree that any claim asserted in any legal proceeding by you against Valve shall be commenced and maintained in any state or federal court located in King County, Washington, having subject matter jurisdiction with respect to the dispute between the parties. In any dispute arising under this Agreement, the prevailing party will be entitled to attorneys’ fees and expenses. In the event that any provision of this Agreement shall be held by a court or other tribunal of competent jurisdiction to be unenforceable, such provision will be enforced to the maximum extent permissible and the remaining portions of this Agreement shall remain in full force and effect. This Agreement constitutes and contains the entire agreement between the parties with respect to the subject matter hereof and supersedes any prior oral or written agreements. You agree that this Agreement is not intended to confer and does not confer any rights or remedies upon any person other than the parties to this Agreement.

Purchases of Merchandise via Steam are not authorized in any jurisdiction that does not give effect to all provisions of this Agreement. Valve’s obligations are subject to existing laws and legal process and Valve may comply with law enforcement or regulatory requests or requirements notwithstanding any contrary term.

You agree to comply with all applicable import/export laws and regulations of the United States and its governmental and regulatory agencies (including, without limitation, the Bureau of Export Administration and the U.S. Department of Commerce). You agree not to export the Steam Software or allow use of your Account by individuals of any terrorist supporting countries to which encryption exports are restricted by the Bureau of Export Administration, as of October 2004, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Sudan or Syria. You represent and warrant that you are not located in, under the control of, or a national or resident of any such prohibited country.

I hereby agree to be bound by the Agreement. I also acknowledge and agree that this Agreement (including the Subscription Terms, Steam Online Conduct rules and other Rules of Use, and Privacy Policy) is the complete and exclusive statement of the agreement between Valve and me, and that the Agreement supersedes any prior or contemporaneous agreement, or other communications, whether oral or written, between Valve and myself.

Und hier noch die Privacy Policy:

privacy policy

Valve respects the privacy of its online visitors and users of its products. Valve recognizes the importance of protecting any information collected from users and has adopted this privacy policy that guides how Valve gathers, stores, and uses information from the use of Valve products and online sites by users.

This policy is current as of its last revision date. However, please note that this policy may be amended from time to time to reflect changes and additions to the privacy policy. Please check back for the most current version before relying on any of the provisions in this privacy policy.

Collection and Use of Information
By using Valve's online sites and products, users agree that Valve may collect aggregate information, individual information, and personally identifiable information, as defined below. Valve may share aggregate information and individual information with other parties. Valve shall not share personally identifiable information with other parties, except as described in the policy below.

"Aggregate information" is information that describes the habits, usage patterns, and demographics of users as a group but does not describe or reveal the identity of any particular user.

"Individual information" is information about a user that is presented in a form distinguishable from information relating to other users but not in a form that personally identifies any user or enables the recipient to communicate directly with any user unless agreed to by the user in advance of such communication. This information may be used to improve Valve's products and online sites, for internal marketing studies, or simply to collect demographic information about Valve's users.

Valve may use customer contact information provided by users to send information about Valve, including news about product updates, contests, events, and other promotional materials, but only if the users agree to receive such communications. Except in the cases described below, Valve will not share personally identifiable information with any third party unless the user agrees to such disclosure in advance. "Personally identifiable information" consists of a user's name, email address, physical address, or other data about the user that enables the recipient to personally identify the user. While Valve collects personally identifiable information on a voluntary basis, for certain products and online sites, Valve's collection of personally identifiable information may be a requirement for access to the product or site. Personally identifiable information will be processed and stored by Valve in databases situated in the United States. Valve may allow third parties performing services under contract with Valve to access stored information but such access shall only be to the extent necessary to provide those services. In those instances, the third party will be bound by the terms of this privacy policy. In some situations, personally identifiable information you input in connection with Steam may be made available to other users of Steam. For example, during registration of Steam, Valve collects a user's email address and nickname, and at the user's option, first and last name. Some of this information is searchable and available to other users within Steam. Valve has no obligation to keep the privacy of personally identifiable information that a user makes available to other users via Steam or other Valve software, such as in multiplayer or other public functions.

Personally identifiable information protected under this privacy policy and collected from users may be done in conjunction with associates under agreement with Valve. If an associate of Valve is collecting such personally identifiable information within one of our products or online sites, Valve will make users aware of this at the time the information is gathered. For example, product registration data for Half-Life is collected by Sierra Entertainment. If a user does not want to provide this information, the user may choose to opt out of providing this information. Additionally, if providing the information is a requirement of usage, the user may decline to use that particular service or product. When possible, Valve will make a reasonable effort to direct users to the privacy polices of these associates. Valve's privacy policy does not extend to associates of Valve.

Furthermore, external websites and companies with links to and from Valve's online sites and products may collect personal information about users. Valve's privacy policy does not extend to these external websites and companies. Please refer directly to these companies and websites regarding their privacy policies.

Valve may release personally identifiable information to comply with court orders or laws that require us to disclose such information

Children Under The Age of 13
Valve will not knowingly collect personally identifiable information from any person age 12 and under. Valve encourages parents to instruct their children to never give out personal information when online. Parents who are concerned about the transfer of personal information from their children may contact us at privacy@valvesoftware.com to obtain a record of any information held by Valve and have it removed at their request.

Cookies and Other Information on a User's Machine
Cookies are bits of electronic information that can be transferred to a user's hard drive to customize a person's usage of a product or online site, keep records of a user's access to an online site or product, or store information needed by the user on a regular basis. Use of cookies is typically associated with websites. Valve does not use cookies on their websites; however, Valve does store information on a user's hard drive that is used in conjunction with online play of Valve products. This includes a unique authorization key or CD-Key that is either entered by the user or downloaded automatically during product registration. This authorization key is used to identify a user as valid and allow access to Valve's products. Information regarding Steam billing, your Steam account, your Internet connection and the Valve software installed on your computer are uploaded to the server in connection with your use of Steam and Valve software. Valve software automatically generates and submits to Valve bug reports upon a crash or other fault in the Valve software. This automatically generated bug report information may include information about other software or hardware on a user's system. Valve does not associate and store the automatically generated bug report information with personally identifiable information. Any bug reporting information manually submitted by users (e.g. through Valve's Bug Reporter form) is associated and stored with personally identifiable information. Users should also be aware that game play information disclosed during multiplayer game play (e.g. player name and current player statistics) is public information and may be displayed to other users.

Chat Forums, Etc.
From time to time, Valve's online products may provide chat forums, bulletin boards, or instant messaging tools to users. Any information that is disclosed in chat forums or bulletin boards is public information, and users who message one another may not know each other personally. Users should exercise caution when deciding to disclose personal information in such chat forums.

Choice/Opt-out
Valve gives users the option of discontinuing receipt of promotional email communications from Valve. Instructions for discontinuing receipt of promotional email communications from Valve will be provided in such subsequent email communications to users.

Storage and Security of Information
Personally identifiable information will be processed and stored by Valve in databases hosted in the United States. Valve has taken reasonable steps to protect the information users share with us, including, but not limited to, setup of processes, equipment and software to avoid unauthorized access or disclosure of this information.

Corrections, Updates and Removal of Information
If you are concerned about the accuracy of personal information maintained by Valve or would like your personal information removed from Valve's records, please contact us by emailing privacy@valvesoftware.com for review, update, or removal of personal information.

Contacting Valve
If you have any questions about this privacy statement, or the privacy practices of Valve, please contact us by emailing privacy@valvesoftware.com.

Revision Date: August 10, 2004

Besonders krank finde ich, dass Bürger eines Landes, das laut USA in Zusammenhang mit terroristischer Aktivität stehe, darunter auch in meinen Augen normale Staaten wie Kuba, keinen Account haben dürfen. Jeder Kubaner könnte ja ein potentieller Terrorist sein, oder wie? Definiert Valve "terroristische Völker"?

 

[Day.wal.ker]

Konntest Du deine Zitate nicht verlinken? Wer soll das noch lesen?

 

[Leon]

Das witzige an der Sach ist, dass überhaupt keine fehlenden Dateine heruntergeladen werden, das ist ein Märchen!. Ich selber habe das Spiel gekauft und hatte bis auf die Serverüberlastung am Erscheinigstag keinerlei Probleme. Ich brauche auch keine Onlineverbindung wenn ich das Spiel starte.

Ein Kollege von mir ist Mitglied im CCC und hat was das Hacken usw entsprechend Ahnung!

In Wirklichkeit sind alle Daten auf der CD/DVD vorhanden und werden nur neu angeordnet.
Die erhältlichen Steamsimulatoren beweisen dies!

Mir ist das Wurscht mit Steam, diese Regelung von VALVE und VIVENDI um das Kopieren von Spielen einzugrenzen ist nachzuvollziehen.